This is major homework.  I'll perform some of the experiments tomorrow and
get back
to you with the results.

Another problem: The GoboLinux installer messed up the boot of the existing
Ubuntu
installation.  I used gparted to make the sda1 partition smaller, created
sda3, installed
GoboLinux to sda3.  The resulting grub menu lists both GoboLinux and the
pre-existing
Ubuntu installation, but the Ubuntu install wouldn't boot; it was trying to
load the GoboLinux
kernel, if my interpretation of the error message is correct.

I repaired the grub install with the Ubuntu live CD, so now I can boot
either OS.

More tomorrow.

Bill Dudley


This email is free of malware because I run Linux.

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Lucas C. Villa Real <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Bill,
>
> This is indeed odd. Does /var/log/Xorg.0.log give any hints on the problem?
> Also, could you let me know what's the output of "dmesg | grep efifb" on
> the LiveDVD?
> Could you tell me whether "efivar -l" outputs anything?
>
> Regarding your Nvidia setup:
> One thing you could try is to edit GRUB's command line to add extra
> arguments to the kernel. Some options that may help you are:
> video=vesafb:off
> video=efifb:off
> video=efifb:stride:2048,width:1440,height:900
>
> Note that, if you are running in pure UEFI mode (that is, "efivar -l"
> outputs something), then booting with video=efifb:off will leave you with a
> blank screen until nvidiafb is loaded by udev.
>
> Regarding your Matrox setup:
> Is there any difference in the output of "lsmod" when you boot from the
> LiveDVD and when you boot it from the installed system? Ditto for the
> output of "dmesg".
>
> If possible, could you post the output of lsmod and dmesg somewhere? (e.g.
> http://gist.github.com)
>
> Thanks,
> Lucas
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 5:31 PM, William Dudley <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Addendum.  I installed GoboLinux 16 to the hard disk.  Tried to fire up
>> X.  That fails.  Run Xorg -configure and startx -- -config xorg.conf.new;
>> that fails.  Reboot the Live DVD.  Re-generate the xorg.conf.new that
>> I had generated last time.  I can get X session from the Live DVD.  Save
>> THAT xorg.conf.new to the GoboLinux partition on the hard disk.
>>
>> I reboot to GoboLinux on the hard disk.  X doesn't work.  The two
>> different
>> xorg.conf files only differ in things that are commented out, and yet,
>> the Live
>> DVD can run X, and the hard disk installation cannot.
>>
>> This is beginning to surpass the amount of time that can be wasted on a
>> problem
>> that I thought we solved 20 years ago -- how to get X running.
>>
>> Any suggestions on how to get X to run on the hard disk install?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill Dudley
>>
>>
>> This email is free of malware because I run Linux.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:33 AM, William Dudley <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lucas,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reply.
>>>
>>> I should have noted in my original email that my video card on this
>>> machine is
>>> an Nvidia GeForce 6800.  I eventually found this page:
>>> https://github.com/gobolinux/Documentation/wiki/Afterboot#Known_Issues
>>> where it says Nvidia cards are "problematic" (my word).
>>>
>>> I cannot try running the two commands you suggest (at least with the
>>> Nvidia card
>>> installed), as the screen is unreadable from the very start.  I see the
>>> boot messages
>>> scroll up the screen, and then when the extra-special GoboLinux font
>>> kicks in,
>>> I get "nothing" as described in my last email.
>>>
>>> I now know what the screen is *supposed* to look like, as I stuck an old
>>> PCI bus
>>> video card (Matrox Millenium II) in the machine (no on-motherboard
>>> video) and got as far as the
>>> text prompt where one is prompted to either run startx or Installer.
>>>  startx fails
>>> as the Xorg on the DVD does not like my ancient Matrox video card.
>>>
>>> I tried the commands you suggest with the Matrox video card.  That also
>>> failed to get
>>> an X session up.  I then edited the xorg.conf.new file so that it had
>>> video driver set
>>> to "vesa" and now, finally, I have X and "awesome" up and running.
>>>
>>> So far I can't say I'm real impressed with "awesome", at least not with
>>> the Goth "purple
>>> on black" theme, and no apparent way (at least from the GUI) to change
>>> the theme,
>>> wallpaper, window focus rules, etc.  I tried "Config" and that put me in
>>> a nano session
>>> editing a text file, but without significant documentation, I'll not be
>>> changing anything
>>> in there.  I did look, and there appears to be only the one theme
>>> installed on the machine.
>>>
>>> Is it possible to run Mate window manager in GoboLinux?
>>>
>>> Finally, somebody should update gobolinux.org to fix the search link.
>>> The page that
>>> needs fixing is this one: https://gobolinux.org/community.html
>>>
>>> Again, thanks for your help.
>>>
>>> Bill Dudley
>>> retired software developer
>>>
>>> This email is free of malware because I run Linux.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 10:19 PM, Lucas C. Villa Real <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 12:50 AM, William Dudley <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've tried two different monitors, and both of them don't work with
>>>>> GoboLinux 016 DVD.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Dell just tells me that the video is out of range, and try to use
>>>>> it's native 1600x1200.
>>>>>
>>>>> The (newer) Viewsonic just shows flashing vertical colored strips.
>>>>> Good thing I'm not
>>>>> an epileptic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible to boot the DVD up in "safe" mode at some "normal"
>>>>> video resolution?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Bill,
>>>>
>>>> Could you try running the two commands below?
>>>>
>>>> $ Xorg -configure
>>>> $ startx -- -config xorg.conf.new
>>>>
>>>> You may also make changes to the generated xorg.conf.new, as documented
>>>> here:
>>>> https://github.com/gobolinux/Documentation/wiki/Running-unde
>>>> r-VirtualBox
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'd have tried searching the archives, but the search link on the
>>>>> gobolinux web site, to
>>>>> search.gmane.org, doesn't work, Firefox says search.gmane.org doesn't
>>>>> exist.
>>>>>
>>>>> ping search.gmane.org
>>>>> ping: unknown host search.gmane.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> gmane.org has been shut down recently:
>>>> https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/
>>>>
>>>> As an alternative, you may use the following resource to search the
>>>> mailing list archives:
>>>> http://marc.info/?l=gobolinux-users&r=1&w=3
>>>>
>>>> Lucas
>>>>
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