Thanks, Bill -- and apologies for the bumps! We have had only a handful of
people actively testing the ISO this time.

The Grub menu generation is currently performed by a third-party tool
called OSProber. The snapshot of that tool that I used in the ISO was a bit
broken and had to be tweaked a bit -- it could be that some bug like that
was hiding and was not properly caught. I will look into reproducing that
soon and will update the wiki accordingly.

Best regards,
Lucas



On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:46 AM, William Dudley <[email protected]> wrote:

> This is major homework.  I'll perform some of the experiments tomorrow and
> get back
> to you with the results.
>
> Another problem: The GoboLinux installer messed up the boot of the
> existing Ubuntu
> installation.  I used gparted to make the sda1 partition smaller, created
> sda3, installed
> GoboLinux to sda3.  The resulting grub menu lists both GoboLinux and the
> pre-existing
> Ubuntu installation, but the Ubuntu install wouldn't boot; it was trying
> to load the GoboLinux
> kernel, if my interpretation of the error message is correct.
>
> I repaired the grub install with the Ubuntu live CD, so now I can boot
> either OS.
>
> More tomorrow.
>
> Bill Dudley
>
>
> This email is free of malware because I run Linux.
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Lucas C. Villa Real <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Bill,
>>
>> This is indeed odd. Does /var/log/Xorg.0.log give any hints on the
>> problem?
>> Also, could you let me know what's the output of "dmesg | grep efifb" on
>> the LiveDVD?
>> Could you tell me whether "efivar -l" outputs anything?
>>
>> Regarding your Nvidia setup:
>> One thing you could try is to edit GRUB's command line to add extra
>> arguments to the kernel. Some options that may help you are:
>> video=vesafb:off
>> video=efifb:off
>> video=efifb:stride:2048,width:1440,height:900
>>
>> Note that, if you are running in pure UEFI mode (that is, "efivar -l"
>> outputs something), then booting with video=efifb:off will leave you with a
>> blank screen until nvidiafb is loaded by udev.
>>
>> Regarding your Matrox setup:
>> Is there any difference in the output of "lsmod" when you boot from the
>> LiveDVD and when you boot it from the installed system? Ditto for the
>> output of "dmesg".
>>
>> If possible, could you post the output of lsmod and dmesg somewhere?
>> (e.g. http://gist.github.com)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lucas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 5:31 PM, William Dudley <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Addendum.  I installed GoboLinux 16 to the hard disk.  Tried to fire up
>>> X.  That fails.  Run Xorg -configure and startx -- -config xorg.conf.new;
>>> that fails.  Reboot the Live DVD.  Re-generate the xorg.conf.new that
>>> I had generated last time.  I can get X session from the Live DVD.  Save
>>> THAT xorg.conf.new to the GoboLinux partition on the hard disk.
>>>
>>> I reboot to GoboLinux on the hard disk.  X doesn't work.  The two
>>> different
>>> xorg.conf files only differ in things that are commented out, and yet,
>>> the Live
>>> DVD can run X, and the hard disk installation cannot.
>>>
>>> This is beginning to surpass the amount of time that can be wasted on a
>>> problem
>>> that I thought we solved 20 years ago -- how to get X running.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions on how to get X to run on the hard disk install?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill Dudley
>>>
>>>
>>> This email is free of malware because I run Linux.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:33 AM, William Dudley <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lucas,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the reply.
>>>>
>>>> I should have noted in my original email that my video card on this
>>>> machine is
>>>> an Nvidia GeForce 6800.  I eventually found this page:
>>>> https://github.com/gobolinux/Documentation/wiki/Afterboot#Known_Issues
>>>> where it says Nvidia cards are "problematic" (my word).
>>>>
>>>> I cannot try running the two commands you suggest (at least with the
>>>> Nvidia card
>>>> installed), as the screen is unreadable from the very start.  I see the
>>>> boot messages
>>>> scroll up the screen, and then when the extra-special GoboLinux font
>>>> kicks in,
>>>> I get "nothing" as described in my last email.
>>>>
>>>> I now know what the screen is *supposed* to look like, as I stuck an
>>>> old PCI bus
>>>> video card (Matrox Millenium II) in the machine (no on-motherboard
>>>> video) and got as far as the
>>>> text prompt where one is prompted to either run startx or Installer.
>>>>  startx fails
>>>> as the Xorg on the DVD does not like my ancient Matrox video card.
>>>>
>>>> I tried the commands you suggest with the Matrox video card.  That also
>>>> failed to get
>>>> an X session up.  I then edited the xorg.conf.new file so that it had
>>>> video driver set
>>>> to "vesa" and now, finally, I have X and "awesome" up and running.
>>>>
>>>> So far I can't say I'm real impressed with "awesome", at least not with
>>>> the Goth "purple
>>>> on black" theme, and no apparent way (at least from the GUI) to change
>>>> the theme,
>>>> wallpaper, window focus rules, etc.  I tried "Config" and that put me
>>>> in a nano session
>>>> editing a text file, but without significant documentation, I'll not be
>>>> changing anything
>>>> in there.  I did look, and there appears to be only the one theme
>>>> installed on the machine.
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible to run Mate window manager in GoboLinux?
>>>>
>>>> Finally, somebody should update gobolinux.org to fix the search link.
>>>> The page that
>>>> needs fixing is this one: https://gobolinux.org/community.html
>>>>
>>>> Again, thanks for your help.
>>>>
>>>> Bill Dudley
>>>> retired software developer
>>>>
>>>> This email is free of malware because I run Linux.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 10:19 PM, Lucas C. Villa Real <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 12:50 AM, William Dudley <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've tried two different monitors, and both of them don't work with
>>>>>> GoboLinux 016 DVD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Dell just tells me that the video is out of range, and try to use
>>>>>> it's native 1600x1200.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The (newer) Viewsonic just shows flashing vertical colored strips.
>>>>>> Good thing I'm not
>>>>>> an epileptic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it possible to boot the DVD up in "safe" mode at some "normal"
>>>>>> video resolution?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Bill,
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you try running the two commands below?
>>>>>
>>>>> $ Xorg -configure
>>>>> $ startx -- -config xorg.conf.new
>>>>>
>>>>> You may also make changes to the generated xorg.conf.new, as
>>>>> documented here:
>>>>> https://github.com/gobolinux/Documentation/wiki/Running-unde
>>>>> r-VirtualBox
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd have tried searching the archives, but the search link on the
>>>>>> gobolinux web site, to
>>>>>> search.gmane.org, doesn't work, Firefox says search.gmane.org
>>>>>> doesn't exist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ping search.gmane.org
>>>>>> ping: unknown host search.gmane.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> gmane.org has been shut down recently:
>>>>> https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/
>>>>>
>>>>> As an alternative, you may use the following resource to search the
>>>>> mailing list archives:
>>>>> http://marc.info/?l=gobolinux-users&r=1&w=3
>>>>>
>>>>> Lucas
>>>>>
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