quoted from awesome main page: awesome is a highly configurable, next generation framework window manager for X. It is very fast, extensible and licensed under the GNU GPLv2 license. It is primarly targeted at power users, developers and any people dealing with every day computing tasks and who want to have fine-grained control on theirs graphical environment
Newly installed programs can be used automatically in awesome (just press mod1+r and start to type the program name, tab autocompletes it) so that "old" problem has been solved also in this case :) I understand if you don't like the flow of awesome (or any other tilling window manager) but normally these are designed to give the user a lot of freedom to customize them (normally via a scripting language or any other kind of programming). The main use case of awesome is to avoid the use of the mouse as much as possible so opening a menu just to launch a program is not a common procedure, instead, it normally encourages ppl to use the keyboard to open programs (and it would find your new and flamant program) Said that, I respect your opinion about awesome but seems that there's a lot of ppl who like to use those kind of wm (see xmonad, ratpoison, ion3 or wmii, most of them are far from being pet projects as you claimed). in any case no one forces you to use it, this is Linux world so you can use whatever you want :) El dom., 25 dic. 2016 8:56 PM, William Dudley <[email protected]> escribió: > ATuin Dev, > > Thanks for clearing that up. Good to know that the documentation talks > about stuff that no > longer exists, and that the servers are down. > > As far as "awesome" -- that should be billed as "the window manager for > programmers who want > to code up their own window manager". Most people, who want to do work > (or play) with the > computer, don't want to have to read the manual just to make a few config > changes to the window > manager. They just want to set "click to focus" or "sloppy focus" and a > few other settings in a GUI > config program, and get on with what they *really* want to do. > > Newly installed programs should just appear in the wm. We've had this > problem solved for about > 15 years -- I remember fvwm could do this back in the 2000's at least, > possibly earlier. In fact, > as far as I can tell, fvwm would be a huge improvement over "awesome". (I > sincerely hope that > "awesome" isn't your pet project. In that case, apologies for raining on > your parade.) > > Years ago I read an article in Dr Dobbs about this hot new language, which > sounded amazing. I can't > remember what it was called, and it disappeared without a trace. I > installed it and tried to code something > up with it. Didn't work. Asked for help on the mailing list. I was > informed that most of the advertised features in > the language hadn't actually been WRITTEN yet. It didn't print an error > message, either -- it just > silently failed. What a waste of time, though fortunately, only a few > hours. > > This reminds me of that. > > Bill Dudley > > > Bill Dudley > > > This email is free of malware because I run Linux. > > On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 2:18 PM, ATuin Developer <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > El 25 dic. 2016 7:56 PM, "William Dudley" <[email protected]> escribió: > > Atuin Dev, > > You're telling me that "awesome" config affects whether or not the package > manager works? > > > sorry, my bad. The redaction of the email was so poor. I was meaning the > issue related to not having the new programs in the awesome menus and the > thing about changing the fonts. > > obviously the Manager thing is an issue with gobo, you were right there! > > but those are completely different things and what I was trying to explain > (wrongly :) is that for awesome configuration you should read the awesome > wiki to understand how does it work. > > > That's insane. Why in hell would the window manager affect the package > manager/installer? > > Bill Dudley > > > This email is free of malware because I run Linux. > > On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 1:04 PM, ATuin Developer <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > El 25 dic. 2016 5:07 PM, "William Dudley" <[email protected]> escribió: > > Hi, > > This has been "amusing", as I'm retired so the waste of time > hasn't cost me much, but this really needs a LOT of work if > you expect any but the most dedicated types to stay with it. > > This is a fresh install of GoboLinux 016. > > I tried replacing your comically large terminal program with xterm, > because I couldn't figure out which of the 50 command line arguments in the > rc.lua invocation of urxvt would change the font size and window size. > > > The manual for urxvt tells you that you can change the don't through the > command line (as options) or modifying the .Xresources file. A quick search > in Google wold tell you. > > Also the guys who develop awesome maintain a really nice wiki where they > explain how to do that kind of things (a much more). > > Nothing to see with gobolinux though, In any distro using awesome it will > be the same (I have been running awesome in slackware for long time) > > > So I replaced that invocation with: > > local terminal = "xterm -fg green -bg black" > > That sort of works, except when running 'vi', the screen doesn't paint > correctly. > So that experiment failed. > > > again this is related to the awesome config that you want to achieve. > awesome it's not like gnome or kde. You really need to read the awesome doc > to tune it. > > > Next, I read the wiki, wondering how to install software and do upgrades > to existing software. > > The wiki says, to do upgrades, to run "Manager". > > zsh: command not found: Manager. > blah blah,try > InstallPackage Manager > > OK, I try that. > > Result: Package for Manager not found. > > I also tried to install the following: mplayer, audacious, deluge, kicad, > xine, > OpenSCAD, and audacity. All "not found". One helpful suggestion > that popped up was "did I mean Xpdf". I like that program, so I installed > it. > That, amazingly, worked. > > But xpdf does not appear in the menu system, and it's not clear how to > add it. I looked in rc.lua for a clue; found references to Audacious and > MPlayer, > which *don't* appear in the menu, but do, apparently, exist in some > alternate > GoboUniverse. > > > more about awesome config, dont blame gobo for this please, again read the > awesome config it's really good. > > > So, I'm done. GoboLinux needs major work if you expect more than a handful > of users. > > > I agree that some things needs to be improved, onviously the average user > of gobo it's an advance user confident with Linux. > > > Good luck on the project. > Bill Dudley > > This email is free of malware because I run Linux. > > _______________________________________________ > gobolinux-users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gobolinux.org/mailman/listinfo/gobolinux-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > gobolinux-users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gobolinux.org/mailman/listinfo/gobolinux-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > gobolinux-users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gobolinux.org/mailman/listinfo/gobolinux-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > gobolinux-users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gobolinux.org/mailman/listinfo/gobolinux-users > > > _______________________________________________ > gobolinux-users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gobolinux.org/mailman/listinfo/gobolinux-users >
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