Yes, that's the one. Anybody with the word enlightenment in the name is suspect.
--- In [email protected], "Mark Porter" <m...@...> wrote: > > It's the Ramtha School of Enlightenment and I think they are actually in > Washington State, but maybe they moved. Ramtha is supposedly an enlightened > being that is channeled by some woman who has injected her lips with > whatever they use for that procedure, and thats basically all I need to know > about her. > http://www.ramtha.com/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J Storm" <j2w...@...> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:42 PM > Subject: Re: [GohonzonForum] Re: Down The Rabbit Hole/Jerry > > > > Hi Jerry > > What cult like group in Oregon is behind it? > > > > Jerry wrote: > >> > >> Jim, > >> > >> I saw the original What The Bleep movie some years ago so I can't > >> comment directly on the sequel. But assuming they are similar I'll > >> offer the following: > >> > >> Good Points: > >> > >> It illustrates a good deal of advanced quantum physics in a way the > >> average person can get interested about. > >> > >> Held one's attention with a plot > >> > >> Brought in interviews with scientists > >> > >> Bad Points > >> > >> The group behind it is heavily influenced by a semi-cult like group > >> based in Oregon. > >> > >> Failed to point out that all this nifty quantum stuff does not happen > >> in the macro sized world we live in. > >> > >> Left people with the impression that "wow this explains it all > >> ....from teleportation to past life regression!". New Age types assume > >> it validated whatever they are into. > >> > >> To illustrate: In the Quantum World at distances around the Plank > >> length all kinds of cool stuff happens. There is effect at a distance > >> faster than the speed of light, stuff is in two places at once or > >> somewhere, nowhere and everywhere and you have quantum tunneling > >> (where one thing can move through another). > >> > >> However none of this happens in the world we live in. > >> > >> Nobody has ever moved information faster than the speed of light. > >> > >> All the stuff in our consciousness is always in one place at a time. > >> You put your keys on the table and they stay there. They don't > >> reappear on the desk. > >> > >> We can't walk through walls, move object with our minds, or alter > >> events with thoughts. > >> > >> If that were the case, millions of SGI members chanting to save the > >> Sho Hondo from demolition would have pervented a few old priests > >> running Nichiren Shoshu from blowing up the place. > >> > >> If that were the case tens of thousands of people selected for > >> execution on an average day at a Nazi concentration camp would have > >> been able to overpower with thought, the few hundred guards taking > >> them to their death. > >> > >> If that were the case the thoughts of millions of people who stood to > >> lose everything from the economic collapse of 2008 would have > >> prevented it by "Thought Power". Instead some are in jail and many > >> more are in foreclosure or surviving on movement loans. > >> > >> In fact, economic bubbles rather prove the premise of the movie that > >> reality is created by though doesn't work in general. Sure some kinds > >> of ulcers are probably created by stress or worry and if one learns to > >> meditate you blood pressure will decline but that involves biochemical > >> reality in your blood and nervous system not the quantum universe. > >> > >> Remember our thoughts are never in reality at the current moment, they > >> are always in the past. It takes about 8/5000th of a second for a > >> external event, a pin prick to reach the brain. Before it can trigger > >> enough neurons to generate a thought like "ouch" another 25 to > >> 40/5000th of a second pass. So by the time you have a though the > >> universe around you is different by about 50/5000 of a second. > >> How can you influence something, the current condition of things, when > >> you are never in the timeline they inhabit but always stuck in the > >> past? This might explain why so few of our thoughts and prayers lead > >> to what we would like, in reality ..we are never in reality, as it is > >> now. > >> > >> If you do find some examples of things mentioned in the movie ACTUALLY > >> happening, please let me know. > >> > >> Jerry > >> > >> --- In [email protected] > >> <mailto:GohonzonForum%40yahoogroups.com>, JIM WAGGONER <butsu72@> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > Greetings, > >> >  > >> > I recently viewed a video called âWhat the bleep â" Down the > >> rabbit holeâ The movie deals with quantum physics, biophysics, > >> religion, consciousness and reality (life) in general. Two things in > >> particularly impressed me. One, that our thoughts have direct > >> influence our physical reality. Two, on the quantum level of reality; > >> the classic law of cause and effect breaks down (yet, physicists are > >> still trying to define it in terms of causality). Also, it is claimed > >> that there are multiple universes (multiverse) and (though unexplained > >> in the movie), there are 3000. > >> >  > >> > I am trying to integrate this information into my understanding > >> Ichinen Sanzen and Esho Funi. > >> >  > >> > Has anyone here seen this video? Would anyone care to comment? > >> >  > >> > Jim > >> >  > >> > CHANGE YOUR MIND, CHANGE YOUR REALITY â" Actuality I have been > >> hearing this message in various forms for years. > >> >  > >> > www.whatthebleep.com > >> >  > >> > > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >> Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2865 - Release Date: 05/10/10 > >> 06:26:00 > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
