For that tool, which is not the subject of this thread, the maintainers are willing to pay the price of inclusion in the toolchain.
As I stated in my original reply,I would hope we don't have to pay the same price for the debugger. I don't understand why anyone thinks that inclusion in the toolchain, as the toolchain is today is a good idea. The toolchain/standard library is where all things stop evolving any any significant speed and stop being able to break compatibil in favor of stability. If we'd have a 3 months release cycle then this might be a different story. However it's ultimately not up to me to decide but I believe that the more things we have outside of the toolchain / standard library, the better. On Tue, 7 Nov 2017, 09:19 Sotirios Mantziaris, <smantzia...@gmail.com> wrote: > https://github.com/golang/dep/wiki/Roadmap > > The goal with dep is to be absorbed into the go toolchain. That's the > path we're on, but it's up to the Go community - you! - to help us see it > through. > > On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 11:16 AM Florin Pățan <florinpa...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> dep is not part of the toolchain. >> >> On Tue, 7 Nov 2017, 08:38 Sotirios Mantziaris, <smantzia...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> would it not make sense them to keep dep out of the std toolchain to >>> adapt faster to changes? >>> >>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 9:31:01 AM UTC+2, Dave Cheney wrote: >>>> >>>> If you reported an issue today, Nov 6, you could be waiting nearly 9 >>>> months to see a fix in the next released version of Go. >>>> >>>> A project living outside the standard library has little going against >>>> it other than you have to compile it yourself. >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 18:28:09 UTC+11, Sotirios Mantziaris wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I do not know if the times you mentioned are indeed that long. >>>>> If it is true then you actually have a good argument. >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 9:20:08 AM UTC+2, Florin Pățan wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope not. Anything that ends up in the toolchain is slow to change >>>>>> and adapt to user needs. If I have a problem with delve today, I can post >>>>>> an issue, fix it and get the next version of delve az quick as a few >>>>>> hours. >>>>>> If it would be in the toolchain it could take up to six months to get it >>>>>> released. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 7 Nov 2017, 07:04 Sotirios Mantziaris, <smant...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes i know that, but i wonder if it is time to fully integrate delve >>>>>>> in the go toolchain and ship it with every release like dep, which >>>>>>> exists >>>>>>> in another repository, but will be fullly integrated into the toolchain >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> the releases in some future version. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 1:38:27 AM UTC+2, Florin Pățan wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Delve is the one towards which the community rally since gdb, >>>>>>>> still, doesn't play nice with goroutines. So, for all intents and >>>>>>>> purposes, >>>>>>>> delve is the official debugger and the Go Team and Delve Team do work >>>>>>>> together to give us a better debugging experience. But sometimes the >>>>>>>> problems that need to be fixed are just too hard to do so quickly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>>> the Google Groups "golang-nuts" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/golang-nuts/UY6pvL8qeIw/unsubscribe >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>>> golang-nuts...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "golang-nuts" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/golang-nuts/UY6pvL8qeIw/unsubscribe. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> golang-nuts+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- > Kind Regards, > > S. Mantziaris > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "golang-nuts" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to golang-nuts+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
