'carcer' is the word. jail/gaol are just johnny-come-lately.

On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 9:43 AM David Riley <fraveyd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On May 18, 2019, at 05:59, ma...@madra.net wrote:
>
> On Saturday, 18 May 2019 00:44:33 UTC+1, Rob 'Commander' Pike wrote:
>>
>> jail is a clear improvement over the ludicrous gaol...
>>
>
> I hadn't actually realised that GAOL vs JAIL was a British vs. US English
> distinction. I thought 'Gaol' was just an archaic spelling of 'Jail', as
> I've only ever come across it in C19th and earlier literature. Even over
> this side of the pond, 'Jail' is used pretty exclusively. Although we
> mostly call it 'Prison' :-)
>
>
> This is OT for the list, but: I think it’s more the latter (an archaism
> rather than a regional distinction; jail is basically universal here
> because we started later).
>
> We do, however, tend to distinguish somewhat between “jail” and “prison”;
> the short version is that jail is temporary holding while awaiting trial,
> while prison is more permanent punitive containment post-sentencing. I’m
> not sure if that distinction exists as much overseas, and in colloquial US
> English, saying that someone is “in jail” is often used for both situations
> (I, myself, enjoy our more colorful slang such as “in the pokey” or “up the
> river”).
>
>
> - Dave
>
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