I had forgotten about the multidimensional slices proposal. That's a very good counter-example.
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 4:12 AM Ian Davis <m...@iandavis.com> wrote: > On Sun, 19 Jul 2020, at 2:08 AM, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 12:19 AM Tyler Compton <xavi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > I'm beginning to think that community members (like myself) can't > reasonably be expected to put in the necessary effort to champion a sizable > language change. I think it was Ian who made multiple generics draft > proposals just to reject them himself, then Ian and Robert Griesemer spent > more untold hours writing the contracts draft design only to have that > rejected as well. For people outside the core Go team, these probably would > have been unpaid hours. It's hard to justify spending that kind of time > when there's such a high chance that the proposal may not amount to > anything. I think it's for this reason that community proposals are usually > nowhere near as fleshed out as the draft proposals we've been getting from > the core team. > > > > In fairness, though, there is no language change proposal that is as > > large as generics. The changes that were made in recent releases were > > much smaller. (And, for what it's worth, they did not all come from > > Googlers; e.g., https://golang.org/issue/12711, > > https://golang.org/issue/19308, https://golang.org/issue/29008.) > > > > I think the multidimensional slices proposal ( > https://github.com/golang/go/issues/6282 and several spawned from there) > is an example of a major proposed change that the community put great > effort into with multiple detailed specifications. There is an asymmetry of > time and expertise at play here. I suspect many people would use and > benefit from native matrices in Go but the number of people with the > necessary skills to design the spec and the amount of available time to > devote to it is vanishingly small. > > We need a way for knowledgable experts to be able to take a sabbatical or > similar to spend time refining and guiding their proposal with the Go team. > Is this something that the Go project or another corporate sponsor could > help with? > > Ian > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "golang-nuts" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to golang-nuts+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/golang-nuts/37ed3f4e-460f-48b6-a636-61d3eadc5c8a%40www.fastmail.com > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "golang-nuts" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to golang-nuts+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/golang-nuts/CAA%3DXfu3J%3Dfg9WxCfODoJ7NUagXfqm8e7SkgFVNNSOkAFd4Bazg%40mail.gmail.com.
