You know what, I just thought of the best analogy to put this argument to rest.
About 10 years ago, when go v1.0 first came out, I like many of the familiar faces in this thread, absolutely fell in love with the language. It was literally like a goldilocks "this one is juuuuuust right" moment for me after being totally disgruntled with all the trade offs you had to suffer with when trying to deal with when trying to learn python, C#, C++, and C. (at the time i had only been programming for about a year) Since I was a noob hacker, I couldn't contribute to the code in any useful way other than to propose a few bad ideas that eventually did end up getting implemented years down the road. (especially the idea im about to talk about) One of my bad ideas was that I wanted to create a badge that people could post on their websites they used Go to build, as a means to let the world know that they support the language. The general idea being that the more people who see cool websites being built with Go, the more people would adopt the language. So I tried to submit a merge request where the front page had these three buttons at the bottom of the page. [image: 2 - SwkPj - white gopher.png][image: 3 - 5w0lx - blue gopher.png][image: 1 - 47bgL.png] And Russ Cox shot me down (for good reason) because while he understood my argument that they should be right there out in front so that everybody knows to actually use them, his argument was better because he pointed out that the main reason why Go rocks is because the front page is minimalistic and as bare bones as possible. He pointed out that other popular language's front pages were absolutely cluttered with a bunch of non essential and somewhat irrelevant information that is bettered suited to say a wiki, rather than being forced upon everybody's eyeballs every time they navigated to go's landing page. Of course he is correct and honestly he taught me one of the most important lessons that day because despite the fact that my intentions were good and my "theory" was ultimately sound, that doesn't mean the decision is inline with what we were calling "idiomatic go" in terms of what is considered quality engineering and what is considered unnecessary bloat. The point is that this political banner, (that I just discovered also plagues the pkg.go.dev site) is literally a million times worse, under those very same principles, Russ Cox pointed out than my proposal. Because why my proposal advocated for something I know everybody here can get behind. This ad literally alienates people who don't necessarily agree with the BLM or the equal justice narrative. It creates a morale conflict for many people and all I want is for us to uphold the founding principles this language was founded upon. Because while I was ultimately crushed being rejected, I understood that it was important that I was. And we all need to understand this is literally just as important. The issue might be the most important thing in the world in your view, that doesn't mean Go should be forced to suffer because everybody in silicon valley is indoctrinated into the revolution. If we can't promote Go for political self promotion on the front page, why the hell can we promote something political that doesn't even have anything to do with Go? Are we now a team of hypocrites who no longer have their eyes on the ball? Because frankly, were finally in the world series and the last thing we want to do is strike out when all we have to do is hit a single to get the winning run that wins the game. On Wednesday, March 17, 2021 at 8:12:15 AM UTC-5 peterGo wrote: > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021 at 6:10:09 AM UTC-4 axel.wa...@googlemail.com > wrote: > >> As such, nothing has really changed since the topic last came up >> <https://groups.google.com/g/golang-nuts/c/YzN4LkMHs7k/m/W0mrUwTqBgAJ>. >> >> > I started the original thread titled "political fundraising on golang.org > !". > https://groups.google.com/g/golang-nuts/c/YzN4LkMHs7k/ > > I read Russ Cox's polemic. > https://groups.google.com/g/golang-nuts/c/YzN4LkMHs7k/m/XFtRziMfBgAJ > > Every time I see the banner it reminds me of Martin Luther's Disputation > on the Power and Efficacy of Indulgences. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninety-five_Theses > > Peter > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "golang-nuts" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to golang-nuts+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/golang-nuts/31dc27ed-ef45-4695-a04e-c4819e649cd0n%40googlegroups.com.
