And so: https://github.com/golang/go/issues/63589

On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 10:44:04 AM UTC+2 Simon Walter wrote:

> It is good practice to use test lang/tools/libs/etc different from what 
> you are using in your actual code.
>
> If the author has meant for the httptest package as general purpose HTTP 
> testing library, then, I will argue that such defaults are incorrect. It is 
> incorrect even if the intended purpose is to tests code that is derived 
> from http package.
>
> If the author has meant for the httptest package to be used for tests 
> internal to the http package, then it should be labeled such.
>
> I'll mention this to brad...@golang.org.
> On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 4:58:16 PM UTC+2 Axel Wagner wrote:
>
>> To be clear: The behavior of an `http.ResponseWriter` to implicitly use a 
>> 200 status code if no explicit WriteHeader call is made is documented:
>> https://pkg.go.dev/net/http#ResponseWriter.WriteHeader
>> I really think it is a bad (or at least strange) idea to claim to 
>> implement `http.ResponseWriter` while *not* replicating this behavior.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 4:53 PM Axel Wagner <axel.wa...@googlemail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It seems to me that the fact that the functions accept and return types 
>>> from `net/http` (like `http.ResponseWriter` and `http.Handler`) and given 
>>> that it's nested below `net/http` should make it fairly obvious that it's 
>>> meant to be used with `net/http`. I also genuinely don't understand what 
>>> the intersection is of "being tempted to use `httptest`" and "does not 
>>> intend to be used with `net/http`". I also genuinely don't understand how 
>>> the behavior of `httptest` could ever cause any harm (quite the opposite).
>>>
>>> But, YMMV, of course and you are free to roll your own testing helpers.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 9:30 AM Simon Walter <siwa...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Axel, thanks for providing some context.
>>>>
>>>> I suppose it is better for me to think of the httptest package as 
>>>> specific to the http package - although this is not explicitly stated: 
>>>> "Package httptest provides utilities for HTTP testing"
>>>>
>>>> This seems misleading as is the case with this '200' default.
>>>>
>>>> I stopped using httptest.NewRecorder() because of the possibility to 
>>>> introduce changes to tests that would make tests pass. Not everyone knows 
>>>> the internals of all the code. Because of this, I think it is risky to 
>>>> have 
>>>> values set by default to the value that causes the test to pass.
>>>>
>>>> Some questions that should not keep us awake at night: The test passed, 
>>>> but will it fail? Will it fail where/how I think it will?
>>>>
>>>> Simon
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 6:16:41 AM UTC+2 Axel Wagner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you want to argue that `net/http` should not set the response code 
>>>>> to 200 by default, I would be inclined to agree. I don't particularly 
>>>>> like 
>>>>> that the API even *allows* you not to explicitly set a response code. But 
>>>>> it does. And while it does, the best test is one that matches the 
>>>>> behavior 
>>>>> of the production environment as closely as possible, full stop.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another way to look at it: Why do you believe you have to test that 
>>>>> your handler sets the response code to 200? Why should the test fail, if 
>>>>> it 
>>>>> doesn't do it - given that *the production code* will still end up with 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> right response code? If the response sent to the user is the right one - 
>>>>> why would it matter whether it was your Handler that set it, or the 
>>>>> framework?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 10:22 PM Simon Walter <siwa...@redhat.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How does that explain why it is a good idea?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps my concern is not clear enough.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> n := 5
>>>>>> funcThatShouldSetNtoFive(&n)
>>>>>> if n != 5 {
>>>>>>   panic("n is not 5)
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is not a good test.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can check if the value has changed by:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> n := 0
>>>>>> funcThatShouldSetNtoFive(&n)
>>>>>> if n != 5 {
>>>>>>   panic("n is not 5)
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's a bit more sensible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wouldn't it be less risky for a test to fail by default? Removal of 
>>>>>> the call to funcThatShouldSetNtoFive, IMO, should result in failure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 6:10:36 PM UTC+2 Axel Wagner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A default `net/http` server also uses 200 as the default response 
>>>>>>> code. The behavior of an `http.Handler` not setting a response code 
>>>>>>> should 
>>>>>>> be the same, if it uses `httptest`, as if it uses `net/http`.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 5:17 PM Simon Walter <siwa...@redhat.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is the reason that ResponseRecorder HTTP status code defaults 
>>>>>>>> to 200?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://cs.opensource.google/go/go/+/refs/tags/go1.21.3:src/net/http/httptest/recorder.go;drc=ff14e844d26090e09aa335d836f737c09a7a0402;l=55
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://cs.opensource.google/go/go/+/refs/tags/go1.21.3:src/net/http/httptest/recorder.go;drc=ff14e844d26090e09aa335d836f737c09a7a0402;l=196
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can someone explain to me why this is a good idea? Would it not 
>>>>>>>> make more sense to set it to a value that is not a valid HTTP response 
>>>>>>>> code 
>>>>>>>> such as 0?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>>>>
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