Jeremy, You are right in a way. However, I have never in my life witnessed a consultant who is as heavily invested into GOOG as you are (judging by your knowledge) and yet I have never even once seen you engage in, even mildly, insulting our intelligence.
Regards, Zdravko On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Jeremy Geerdes <[email protected]> wrote: > This forum has always had a very positive tone, and I for one would like to > keep it that way. I understand that there is frustration surrounding the > deprecation of the Translate and other APIs, but there is no reason for us to > be slamming each other around. Bottom line: be civil. > > Jeremy R. Geerdes > Generally Cool Guy > Des Moines, IA > > For more information or a project quote: > [email protected] > > If you're in the Des Moines, IA, area, check out Debra Heights Wesleyan > Church! > > On May 31, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Zdravko Gligic wrote: > >> Legally, while they appear to be 100% in the right, it is interesting >> what a U.S. judge would say to their "good faith" practices. >> >> Morally, and as far as "good faith" is concerned, they have acted >> totally carelessly and without any signed of prudency. >> >> Finally, you sound like a consultants who is heavily with your >> you-know-what, up their you-know-what. >> >> >> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:07 PM, pthurmond <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Every dang one of you are really freaking out and acting like Google >>> owes you something. They don't owe anyone squat. Truth be told I have >>> seen thousands of new applications developed around this free service >>> and no one was compensating Google for it at all. Stop complaining >>> about losing your free handouts people. >>> >>> This air of entitlement that some of you are spewing is just >>> disgusting. This isn't about Google's greed and selfishness, its about >>> your own. >>> >>> Good lord, give something away for free and people expect you to keep >>> doing it, even if it becomes an excessive burden to you. They think of >>> it as their right to have it. Guess what, its not a right of yours. >>> When you rely on freebies and handouts to hold yourself or your >>> business up you are doomed to fail. >>> >>> Now don't get me wrong, I think it really sucks that they are shutting >>> down and I do think that they should offer a paid option such as a >>> subscription or a per translation fee. It is short-sighted that they >>> are not offering a paid option. But you have to remember, they have >>> been giving this away. This is not a human right. Suck it up people! >>> >>> Put all your eggs in one basket and eventually you will lose all your >>> eggs. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Patrick >>> >>> On May 29, 11:36 pm, sami <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Shameful >>>> >>>> Transliterate is going down too - apparently Google hates its South >>>> Asian users.... >>>> >>>> On May 29, 6:57 am, Zdravko Gligic <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Except if it was not for the fact that those economic burdens did not >>>>> happen overnight and the fact that they acted totally in bad faith by >>>>> following Translate v1 with v2. It is not like v1 was not around for >>>>> a few years and as if these economic burdens were sudden. All of that >>>>> adds up to an extreme case of ACTING IN BAD FAITH and which would most >>>>> likely succeed in a class action lawsuit that was waged by those who >>>>> got ruined by this bad faith. Obviously, to Google, copyrights and >>>>> TOS are something with which it wipes its but (when others' interests >>>>> are considered) and its face. >>>> >>>>> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Jeremy Geerdes <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> "Google reserves the right in its discretion to cease providing all or >>>>>> any part of a Deprecated Version of the Service immediately without >>>>>> any notice if... (c) providing the Deprecated Version of the Service >>>>>> could create a >>>>>> substantial economic burden on Google as determined by Google in its >>>>>> reasonable good faith judgment." >>>> >>>>>> Google has claimed that maintaining the Translate API is a economic >>>>>> burden because of the abuse of the API. The way this clause is written, >>>>>> they most certainly can discontinue the service today, without any >>>>>> notice. >>>> >>>>>> Jeremy R. Geerdes >>>>>> Generally Cool Guy >>>>>> Des Moines, IA >>>> >>>>>> For more information or a project quote: >>>>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>>>> If you're in the Des Moines, IA, area, check out Debra Heights Wesleyan >>>>>> Church! >>>> >>>>>> On May 28, 2011, at 7:33 PM, peterburk wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> Google isn't actually allowed to deprecate them in December. They must >>>>>>> continue unmaintained operation for at least 3 years for non- >>>>>>> experimental projects, including Translate API. >>>> >>>>>>> In Google's Console API Terms of Use: >>>> >>>>>>> 1.3 Deprecation. If Google in its discretion chooses to cease >>>>>>> providing the current version of the Service whether through >>>>>>> discontinuation of the Service or by upgrading the Service to a newer >>>>>>> version, the current version of the Service will be deprecated and >>>>>>> become a Deprecated Version of the Service. Google will issue an >>>>>>> announcement if the current version of the Service will be deprecated. >>>>>>> For a period of 3 years after an announcement (the "Deprecation >>>>>>> Period"), Google will use commercially reasonable efforts to continue >>>>>>> to operate the Deprecated Version of the Service and to respond to >>>>>>> problems with the Deprecated Version of the Service deemed by Google >>>>>>> in its discretion to be critical. During the Deprecation Period, no >>>>>>> new features will be added to the Deprecated Version of the Service. >>>>>>> Google reserves the right in its discretion to cease providing all or >>>>>>> any part of a Deprecated Version of the Service immediately without >>>>>>> any notice if: >>>>>>> a. Google reasonably believes you have breached any provision of the >>>>>>> Terms; or >>>>>>> b. Google is required to do so by law (for example, due to a change to >>>>>>> the law governing the provision of the Deprecated Version of the >>>>>>> Service); or >>>>>>> c. the Deprecated Version of the Service relies on data or service >>>>>>> provided by a third party partner and the relationship with such >>>>>>> partner (i) has expired or been terminated or (ii) requires Google to >>>>>>> change the way Google provides the data or services through the >>>>>>> Deprecated Version of the Service; or >>>>>>> d. providing the Deprecated Version of the Service could create a >>>>>>> substantial economic burden on Google as determined by Google in its >>>>>>> reasonable good faith judgment; or >>>>>>> e. providing the Deprecated Version of the Service could create a >>>>>>> security risk or material technical burden upon Google as determined >>>>>>> by Google in its reasonable good faith judgment. >>>>>>> Google is constantly innovating in order to provide the best possible >>>>>>> experience for its users. 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