Thank you for the kind words. To be clear, my warning was addressed to everyone, myself included. There are certainly grounds for frustration, but it is a valid point that Google has offered the APIs (because Translate wasn't the only thing deprecated) for free. Let's appreciate that emotions are running high right now, and then take a step back, take a deep breath, and be civil.
Jeremy R. Geerdes Generally Cool Guy Des Moines, IA For more information or a project quote: [email protected] If you're in the Des Moines, IA, area, check out Debra Heights Wesleyan Church! On May 31, 2011, at 11:40 AM, Zdravko Gligic wrote: > Jeremy, > > You are right in a way. However, I have never in my life witnessed a > consultant who is as heavily invested into GOOG as you are (judging by > your knowledge) and yet I have never even once seen you engage in, > even mildly, insulting our intelligence. > > Regards, > Zdravko > > On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Jeremy Geerdes <[email protected]> wrote: >> This forum has always had a very positive tone, and I for one would like to >> keep it that way. I understand that there is frustration surrounding the >> deprecation of the Translate and other APIs, but there is no reason for us >> to be slamming each other around. Bottom line: be civil. >> >> Jeremy R. Geerdes >> Generally Cool Guy >> Des Moines, IA >> >> For more information or a project quote: >> [email protected] >> >> If you're in the Des Moines, IA, area, check out Debra Heights Wesleyan >> Church! >> >> On May 31, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Zdravko Gligic wrote: >> >>> Legally, while they appear to be 100% in the right, it is interesting >>> what a U.S. judge would say to their "good faith" practices. >>> >>> Morally, and as far as "good faith" is concerned, they have acted >>> totally carelessly and without any signed of prudency. >>> >>> Finally, you sound like a consultants who is heavily with your >>> you-know-what, up their you-know-what. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:07 PM, pthurmond <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> Every dang one of you are really freaking out and acting like Google >>>> owes you something. They don't owe anyone squat. Truth be told I have >>>> seen thousands of new applications developed around this free service >>>> and no one was compensating Google for it at all. Stop complaining >>>> about losing your free handouts people. >>>> >>>> This air of entitlement that some of you are spewing is just >>>> disgusting. This isn't about Google's greed and selfishness, its about >>>> your own. >>>> >>>> Good lord, give something away for free and people expect you to keep >>>> doing it, even if it becomes an excessive burden to you. They think of >>>> it as their right to have it. Guess what, its not a right of yours. >>>> When you rely on freebies and handouts to hold yourself or your >>>> business up you are doomed to fail. >>>> >>>> Now don't get me wrong, I think it really sucks that they are shutting >>>> down and I do think that they should offer a paid option such as a >>>> subscription or a per translation fee. It is short-sighted that they >>>> are not offering a paid option. But you have to remember, they have >>>> been giving this away. This is not a human right. Suck it up people! >>>> >>>> Put all your eggs in one basket and eventually you will lose all your >>>> eggs. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Patrick >>>> >>>> On May 29, 11:36 pm, sami <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Shameful >>>>> >>>>> Transliterate is going down too - apparently Google hates its South >>>>> Asian users.... >>>>> >>>>> On May 29, 6:57 am, Zdravko Gligic <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Except if it was not for the fact that those economic burdens did not >>>>>> happen overnight and the fact that they acted totally in bad faith by >>>>>> following Translate v1 with v2. It is not like v1 was not around for >>>>>> a few years and as if these economic burdens were sudden. All of that >>>>>> adds up to an extreme case of ACTING IN BAD FAITH and which would most >>>>>> likely succeed in a class action lawsuit that was waged by those who >>>>>> got ruined by this bad faith. Obviously, to Google, copyrights and >>>>>> TOS are something with which it wipes its but (when others' interests >>>>>> are considered) and its face. >>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Jeremy Geerdes <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> "Google reserves the right in its discretion to cease providing all or >>>>>>> any part of a Deprecated Version of the Service immediately without >>>>>>> any notice if... (c) providing the Deprecated Version of the Service >>>>>>> could create a >>>>>>> substantial economic burden on Google as determined by Google in its >>>>>>> reasonable good faith judgment." >>>>> >>>>>>> Google has claimed that maintaining the Translate API is a economic >>>>>>> burden because of the abuse of the API. The way this clause is written, >>>>>>> they most certainly can discontinue the service today, without any >>>>>>> notice. >>>>> >>>>>>> Jeremy R. Geerdes >>>>>>> Generally Cool Guy >>>>>>> Des Moines, IA >>>>> >>>>>>> For more information or a project quote: >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>>>> If you're in the Des Moines, IA, area, check out Debra Heights Wesleyan >>>>>>> Church! >>>>> >>>>>>> On May 28, 2011, at 7:33 PM, peterburk wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>> Google isn't actually allowed to deprecate them in December. They must >>>>>>>> continue unmaintained operation for at least 3 years for non- >>>>>>>> experimental projects, including Translate API. >>>>> >>>>>>>> In Google's Console API Terms of Use: >>>>> >>>>>>>> 1.3 Deprecation. If Google in its discretion chooses to cease >>>>>>>> providing the current version of the Service whether through >>>>>>>> discontinuation of the Service or by upgrading the Service to a newer >>>>>>>> version, the current version of the Service will be deprecated and >>>>>>>> become a Deprecated Version of the Service. Google will issue an >>>>>>>> announcement if the current version of the Service will be deprecated. >>>>>>>> For a period of 3 years after an announcement (the "Deprecation >>>>>>>> Period"), Google will use commercially reasonable efforts to continue >>>>>>>> to operate the Deprecated Version of the Service and to respond to >>>>>>>> problems with the Deprecated Version of the Service deemed by Google >>>>>>>> in its discretion to be critical. During the Deprecation Period, no >>>>>>>> new features will be added to the Deprecated Version of the Service. >>>>>>>> Google reserves the right in its discretion to cease providing all or >>>>>>>> any part of a Deprecated Version of the Service immediately without >>>>>>>> any notice if: >>>>>>>> a. Google reasonably believes you have breached any provision of the >>>>>>>> Terms; or >>>>>>>> b. 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