Is there any other way to keep an instance "warm"?

Startup of instance just takes to much time to have an effective GAE/J
application...

On 19 okt, 22:58, "Jason (Google)" <apija...@google.com> wrote:
> To answer your question, no, having a cron job run every minute to keep an
> instance warm will not work. If all application instances have spun down,
> then a fresh HTTP request will require a new instance to be created, which
> will incur the startup costs.
>
> - Jason
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Toby <tobias.ro...@sunnymail.mobi> wrote:
>
> > That is an interesting thread.  I was asking myself the same question.
> > My problem is, that I have some expensive initialization that is done
> > when the webapp is initialized.  I recognized that the very first
> > request (after a longer time of idle) takes a lot of time. And as you
> > say is expensive.
> > I wonder if it would make sense to have a cron job that runs every
> > minute to prevent this?
>
> > On Oct 15, 10:52 pm, Timwillhack <timwillh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I should probably point out that when I say 'Timed out' I really mean,
> > > clean start after waiting say 10 minutes to refresh a page, its not a
> > > 30 second endless while loop or anything, its actually just outputting
> > > one character from a string array.
>
> > > On Oct 15, 2:46 pm, Timwillhack <timwillh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I was just curious if the initialization of the Java VM is actually
> > > > charged a client?  Here are some sample headers from Java vs. Python
> > > > after letting the server timeout:
>
> > > > VERY EXPENSIVE JAVA (timed out - guessing restarting VM):
> > > > X-AppEngine-Estimated-CPM-US-Dollars: $0.149171
> > > > X-AppEngine-Resource-Usage: ms=4152 cpu_ms=6440 api_cpu_ms=0
>
> > > > X-AppEngine-Estimated-CPM-US-Dollars: $0.145377
> > > > X-AppEngine-Resource-Usage: ms=3890 cpu_ms=6276 api_cpu_ms=0
>
> > > > Cheap JAVA (quick refresh):
> > > > X-AppEngine-Estimated-CPM-US-Dollars: $0.000168
> > > > X-AppEngine-Resource-Usage: ms=41 cpu_ms=3 api_cpu_ms=0
>
> > > > X-AppEngine-Estimated-CPM-US-Dollars: $0.000189
> > > > X-AppEngine-Resource-Usage: ms=19 cpu_ms=4 api_cpu_ms=0
>
> > > > CHEAP PYTHON FRESH START (waited about 10 mins before connecting):
> > > > X-AppEngine-Estimated-CPM-US-Dollars: $0.002778
> > > > X-AppEngine-Resource-Usage: ms=103 cpu_ms=116 api_cpu_ms=0
>
> > > > X-AppEngine-Estimated-CPM-US-Dollars: $0.002778
> > > > X-AppEngine-Resource-Usage: ms=106 cpu_ms=116 api_cpu_ms=0
>
> > > > PYTHON RECONNECT QUICKLY:
> > > > X-AppEngine-Estimated-CPM-US-Dollars: $0.000231
> > > > X-AppEngine-Resource-Usage: ms=7 cpu_ms=6 api_cpu_ms=0
>
> > > > Python is reporting very very very cheaper pricing per 1000.  Is this
> > > > the case or does google not really charge for the initialization for
> > > > java?  I sat here refreshing a page with a friend doing the same, out
> > > > of the 40 or so requests about 4 were skyrocketed in price.  This
> > > > makes me very wary about making something that is hit excessively,
> > > > since it seems like each instance is only taking 10 requests each per
> > > > minute or whatver....
>
> > > > Yuck, are my numbers flawed or something?  Or is Python just so much
> > > > more efficient to use on app engine?
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