I use GWT with GXT has the layer above it
http://www.extjs.com/products/gxt/

On Dec 23, 9:56 am, itsnotvalid <itsnotva...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I tried Django the other day and find that its feature set needs some
> polishing (especially in the forms, or newforms if you have been a
> long user of Django)
>
> The situation for ORM mappings is kind of the same for both systems.
> One of the reason that django could be much faster because of the code
> loading (is it lazy loading?) which we know are very different for
> Python and JRE.
>
> On Dec 23, 6:04 am, trung <tr...@phamcom.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Agree, Django is wicked fast to spin up, you can hardly tell that it
> > was a cold boot. This is my last resort if I cannot find an equivalent
> > framework in Java.
>
> > How fast does Spring MVC spin up?
>
> > On Dec 22, 12:47 pm, "Ikai L (Google)" <ika...@google.com> wrote:
>
> > > I am a fan of what the guys working on Play Framework are doing, but there
> > > are still some things they need to work out for deployment to work in App
> > > Engine. I'd look into addressing the issues myself if I had a 
> > > chance:http://www.playframework.com.
>
> > > Grails is probably the closest to Ruby on Rails, but we are still working 
> > > on
> > > Groovy startup time - it's a different face of the same problem we have 
> > > with
> > > JRuby.
>
> > > If you're looking at new languages altogether (framework independent), I
> > > really like the Scala programming language. It's not as free form as 
> > > dynamic
> > > languages like JRuby or Groovy, but you get a lot from type safety 
> > > without a
> > > lot of the type clunkiness that Java forces upon you.
>
> > > Then - there's also the Python option for App Engine. Django usually spins
> > > up pretty quick (on the order of 50-200ms, from what I remember).
>
> > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Guillaume Laforge 
> > > <glafo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > As you're mentioning Groovy and Grails, have you looked at Gaelyk, the
> > > > lightweight Groovy toolkit?
> > > >http://gaelyk.appspot.com/
>
> > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 19:41, Trung Pham <tr...@phamcom.com> wrote:
> > > > > Coming from Ruby on Rails background, I have tried to run Rails on
> > > > > Jruby on AppEngine. While it works, but it has ridiculous startup
> > > > > time. Well over 20 seconds to spin up an instance, and sometimes it
> > > > > even hits the 30 seconds limit.
>
> > > > > Anyway, out of curiosity, what is the equivalent MVC framework in the
> > > > > Java world that works like Rails? Preferable native Java, not
> > > > > something like Grails on Groovy. Is it even possible to have a MVC
> > > > > framework on AppEngine that takes no more than 1 second to spin up?
>
> > > > > Thanks.
>
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