It depends on your app. For small business app, you may check out force.com, which offers free developer account. I use both GAE and force.com because I'm excited about connecting google cloud with salesforce cloud. but, GAE's current state of reliability and performance is a bit concern. Hope GAE grows up faster. -aj
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Larry Cable <larry.ca...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have to concur with Corby on this ... I was initially attracted to > the end-to-end > solution that GAE offered integrated as it is with Eclipse. > > In practice I have found it very frustrating to develop on GAE because > of: > > - the class white list and 3rd party framework usage (i.e Spring) > > - the truly frustrating metering exceptions that the Datastore and > Servlet container throw, > coding around those is painful... you have to invent your own > "transaction" compensation... > - the lack of any Java based bullk load facility for DS (I had to > write my own) > (which is when you trip up over the metering exceptions...) > > - the limitations of mapping BigTable under JPA/JDO > > - the paucity of debugging on the production server (the log WUI is > woeful for this) > > We have reached the stage with our app where we will probably move it > off GAE and onto EC2 where despite the > additional work involved in dealing with AMI lifecycle vs .war we are > more in control of the underlying environment > > (although I am sure there are a similar, but different, set of hiccups > and hurdles awaiting us ...) > > - Larry > > > On Feb 24, 10:17 am, Corby <cep...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Feb 24, 10:39 am, A1programmer <derrick.simp...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Are there any good alternatives to Google App Engine out there? > > > > > I am finding that I cannot rely on GAE for a production quality > > > environment. > > > > I am very excited about the future of Google App Engine, but I am in > > the same boat, Derrick. > > > > I am working with a startup that tried to get up and running on Google > > App Engine, but we have since migrated to Spring Cloud Foundry, which > > runs on Amazon's EC2 architecture. It is a heavier-weight environment, > > and the monthly costs are higher, but the development costs are much, > > much cheaper, and we have far fewer unexpected Production problems. > > > > > There's a huge attraction to the tiny resource requirement to maintain > a WAR > > > file deployment versus the large requirements of a EC2 style VM. > > > > I agree, but for me there is an even larger attraction to having > > predictable behavior in our Production environment, and we can't > > currently get that from GAE. Some people are happy with BigTable as a > > general persistence solution, but we are not. The whitelisted > > classloader makes every attempt to integrate with third-party > > libraries an adventure. And the nature of GAE's on-demand provisioning > > makes it difficult to guarantee the response times we want for our > > customers. > > > > The crushing blow to our morale is code that runs perfectly in our > > development environment, but breaks when deployed to GAE. > > > > I have a lot of faith in the Google team, and I can't wait to see what > > GAE looks like a year from now. But right now, I can only recommend it > > for the simplest of internal apps, nothing client-facing. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine for Java" group. > To post to this group, send email to > google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<google-appengine-java%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. > > -- AJ Chen, PhD Chair, Semantic Web SIG, sdforum.org http://web2express.org @web2express on twitter Palo Alto, CA, USA 650-283-4091 *Monitoring social media in real time* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine for Java" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
