David, Ikai:

Thanks very much for those blog posts on reducing the cold start
time.  I think 1 to 2 seconds is reasonable.  I'm definitely going to
take a closer look at Objectify.

++Steve

On Mar 30, 4:54 pm, "Ikai L (Google)" <ika...@google.com> wrote:
> David, that post mirrors many of the points made here:
>
> http://www.answercow.com/2010/03/google-app-engine-cold-start-guide-f...
>
> There's one or two more tips on that page.
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:47 PM, David Chandler <turboman...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In the mean time, here are some ideas for reducing startup times by
> > shrinking our apps. I went from 8.1s to 2.5s mainly by eliminating
> > Guice, and I would expect similar results with Spring. I can
> > definitely live with 2.5s...
>
> >http://turbomanage.wordpress.com/2010/03/26/appengine-cold-starts-con...
>
> > /dmc
>
> > On Mar 30, 3:04 pm, Baz <b...@thinkloop.com> wrote:
> > > Great information, Ikai.
>
> > > I really feel that "instances" should be completely avoided in concept
> > and
> > > language on the GAE. What if the feature was simply an enable/disable
> > deal
> > > called "Warm Scale". If it were enabled, then your *next* instance would
> > > always be warm, regardless of how many instances you already had. This
> > would
> > > be most noticeable and suitable for low QPS production apps that are
> > > constantly going from 0 to 1 instances (as you mentioned), but it could
> > > still be important for others, say, for a super-high-profile site, or a
> > > situation where your QPS is right at the threshold of instances and
> > > oscillating back and forth between two instances. Whatever the situation,
> > if
> > > the solution were generalized like that, and most importantly not tied to
> > a
> > > SPECIFIC NUMBER of instances, it would be up to the user to decide how
> > > important it was for them and whether to enable it.
>
> > > Cheers,
> > > Baz
>
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