Awesome! Thanks for looking into it, Ikai. I'll use a workaround for now.
Luis On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Ikai Lan (Google) <ika...@google.com>wrote: > Let me see what it'll take to get this moved into App Engine for Java. With > concurrency, instance hours based quotas, and "knobs" for tuning instance > scheduling, it might not make sense to maintain this limit for online > requests anymore. > > For the time being, however, don't wait for this feature. Work around it > until we sort it out. > > Ikai Lan > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine > Blog: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com > Twitter: http://twitter.com/app_engine > Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine > > > > On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 4:55 AM, Jeff Schnitzer <j...@infohazard.org>wrote: > >> The problem with using the Channel API this way is not quota usage, it's >> the rather significant amount of work required on the client & server to >> make this work. >> >> Making an ajax call from client javascript is trivial. Making an ajax >> call PLUS setting up, tearing down, and processing messages from the channel >> API is a massive PITA. A modern development environment shouldn't make you >> go through this much trouble to do something so simple. >> >> Multithreading largely addresses this issue. Async services don't have >> the issue at all. >> >> Jeff >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Ikai Lan (Google) <ika...@google.com>wrote: >> >>> It doesn't hold up the UI but it effectively blocks a connection. With >>> multithreaded Java this isn't an issue, I suppose - but it will raise your >>> average user facing latency and your application will not autoscale if it is >>> frequent. If it is not frequent, the quote usage from the Channel API will >>> be minimal. >>> >>> Ikai Lan >>> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine >>> Blog: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/app_engine >>> Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Luis Montes <monte...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> It's not in a task queue or cron job. It's definitely not holding up >>>> the UI since the fetch is happening in an AJAX call and the user knows that >>>> the call will take a few seconds. >>>> >>>> Putting it in a task queue means i have to store the results and poll >>>> the server to check if the results have finished, or use the channel API to >>>> push a notification back to the client. Those approaches both use more >>>> quota than would simply allowing for more time on a normal fetch. >>>> >>>> Luis >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Ikai Lan (Google) >>>> <ika...@google.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Are you doing the urlfetch in an offline call (task queue or cron)? If >>>>> so, the limit should be higher than 10 seconds as of SDK 1.4.1. >>>>> >>>>> I hope this isn't an "online" call, because it would suck for a user to >>>>> wait 30 seconds before a page load. You're better off showing the user a >>>>> loading screen, handing the job to a task queue, then updating the page >>>>> when >>>>> the fetch has finished. >>>>> >>>>> Ikai Lan >>>>> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine >>>>> Blog: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com >>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/app_engine >>>>> Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Luis Montes <monte...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I understand why there's a 30 second limit for an http connection to >>>>>> GAE, but I don't understand why server to server URL fetches get timed >>>>>> out >>>>>> at 10 seconds. >>>>>> >>>>>> Seems like as long as you finish up all your processing in less than >>>>>> 30 you should be fine. 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