Wait... I didn't say anything about not using a Gmail account.

Here, look. Let me break it down as simply as I can.

The client, which a program downloaded on the laptop, authenticates
somehow and sends the IP address to the App Engine server every few
minutes (10 minutes by default). The ISP can determine what internet
subscriber was using a certain IP at a certain time. The App Engine
service stores the IP address and time of last transmission by the
client from the IP. If the laptop gets stolen, the ISP and police will
track it down given this information.

On Mar 25, 11:09 pm, "Steve Robillard" <steverobill...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> This seems to be a client side issue. Why the requirement to authenticate
> with something other than a Gmail address if at all. Why not just have the
> client add a header or headers to a request page which can uniquely id the
> machine that is calling. And ditch all requests without this header(s). One
> would think your users would need to authenticate  to get the info in the
> event the laptop is lost. So if you feel authentication is a must why not
> use a Gmail account?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
>
> [mailto:google-appeng...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of r00723r0
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:54 PM
> To: Google App Engine
> Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Manual Authentication
>
> It seems odd, I know, but I'm not doing anything malicious. I am making a
> laptop recovery service. The client on the laptop must update the Google App
> Engine server with the laptop's IP every few minutes to the App Engine
> server can keep track of it. But I need to make sure what user is sending
> this IP information.
>
> This is where the trouble comes in. The client on the laptop that tries to
> give the server the IP needs to authenticate but cannot without a login
> page.
>
> On Mar 25, 8:50 pm, "Steve Robillard" <steverobill...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > It might help to know why all the subterfuge what problem are you
> > trying to solve? As a user I would be suspicious of any system that
> > forwards me through a series of links and sends secret information.
> > With all do respect it sounds like you are trying to proxy a limited
> > resource or bypass a 3rd party subscription requirement.
>
> > Steve
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
>
> > [mailto:google-appeng...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of r00723r0
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:30 PM
> > To: Google App Engine
> > Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Manual Authentication
>
> > I may have explained myself incorrectly. I need to log in from an
> > invisible client without a web interface, and the login URL is unknown
> > to the standalone client. The client needs to log in and send some data
> silently.
>
> > The main problem is that the username and password are saved, so the
> > user will not be manually logging in. Instead the client must be able
> > to log in without a proprietary log in URL that Google provides.
>
> > A possible solution:
> > * The client connects to someapp.appspot.com/update/, which has only a
> > login URL when a user is not logged in.
> > * The client then connects to the URL and sends magical information to
> > log in.
> > * The login URL redirects back to the /update page, as it always does,
> > and the Google App Engine program stores this visit as programmed.
>
> > However, this solution is inelegant and annoying to program. Any
> > better solutions?
>
> > On Mar 25, 6:30 pm, Marzia Niccolai <ma...@google.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
>
> > > Please see the information in our Google Accounts section which
> > > shows you how to request/require login and generate login/logout
> > > URLs:http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/users/
>
> > > -Marzia
>
> > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:43 AM, r00723r0 <r0072...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I am writing a laptop theft recovery service. The client requests
> > > > / update on the Google App Engine server, with user credentials,
> > > > through HTTPS every few minutes. The server stores the IP from
> > > > which the request was made and the time the request was made in
> > > > the user information database model. My question is as such: how
> > > > do I authenticate the user in the Google App Engine server? The
> > > > username and password are given through POST in the HTTP request
> > > > but I'd still need a login URL which the client cannot generate.
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