ya that is where I am at right now.   I am trying to get my computer
to a point where I can then focus on getting the site uploaded.

I am having problems getting the scripts that the previous coder made
and also getting manage.py to see or find SDK of  google app engine.

I asked the ceo to ask the old programmer about what he meant about
path stuff.

So currently I followed his directions and put manage.py in the app
folder but when I ran it in terminal I get a Cannot find SDK  error.

I mean it's frustrating. I spent about 3 weeks and I am only getting
75 bucks for this. It took up alot of my time just to download the kit
and install it.

and do that Django package installation. and other packages. Now after
doing that. I took a look at the website files given to me from the
previous programmer.

I am struggling on getting the development area to have no errors so I
can focus on the coding part. I have some experience with python and
do know the lango.

That's not the problem. I just have to look at how the pervious
programmer stored data. I don't have problems with doing the changes
to the site and uploading it.

I am doing this will going to college full time so I am stressed out.
The ceo even calls me at times at midnight asking how far I am on the
project.

He told me he is getting concern about the project.

At the start of the job I was never told I had to use google apps that
was unstil I was done with the website addons coded in css and html on
my server.

I then thought he had a hosting services where I just use a panel to
upload the files. Yet I was wrong he tells me he uses google servers.
I then was like what?

I never knew google does that. I never heard anything about that. I
ask him if he was sure it's google.  He said he was pretty sure.

So I thought that google must have it and would provide a upload
cpanel to load in the scripts.

So I ask for the login and stuff and he made an account and then
contacted the old program to get guided on what to do to make my
account.

Then he told me I had to download google apps engine. I then knew that
this must be something big. I was thinking in my head why would a
hosting serivce provider need to give a engine out.

So then he told me out flat that I need to know python and know how to
use google apps engine. I told I know python but never done anything
heavy with it.

I never used google apps and don't know where to go.

So he said don't worry if you have questions I can ask the old
programmer.

So this is where we are at. Usally when I ask the ceo to ask something
to the old programmer this takes time to get a reply.

Cause the old programmer isn't working at this company anymore and I
am sure he looks at his e-mail later on in the day.

So this going back and forth is costing me time and the ceo is getting
impatient.

from what I know. I don't have to code anything heavily. I just have
to make modifications and that is it.

yet still have that error where manage.py dosen't find the SDK of
google apps even though google apps is installed on my system.

So looks like the manage.py dosen't know where google apps is located
for some reason.

I don't know if I have to add  a path on manage.py to point to where
the python script of the SDK is located at?

On Apr 7, 3:56 pm, dartdog1 <tombran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is not easy.. 1st you need to get your machine set to use the
> Google App engine SDK and development server... I put my experience
> with that herehttp://tombrander.wordpress.com... then you need to get
> your current version of the app running there... from other messages I
> see you have left it seems that you have problems at that point...so
> get those solved... If you don't have a useful development environment
> your going to have a long road.. I've found Eclipse with Pydev to be
> very helpful but it too has a learning curve.
>
> I'm currently struggling with Google App engine patch and Django
> examples but the above steps are how I got that far. FWIW, Finding the
> files for modifying code within Django is not very easy and my guess
> id that if you are using the app-engine patch you probably got Django
> as well,, so looking at that doccumentation might help...
>
> Good luck, you may have bitten off too much ??
>
> As I said I'm still struggling... but keeping at it as there seems to
> be some gold at the end of the rainbow!
>
> On Apr 7, 1:50 pm, Aaron <shyhockey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Is their any instant chat room that can help me with google apps
> > engine?
>
> > On Apr 7, 2:29 pm, Aaron <shyhockey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I don't think  he means updating.
>
> > > I was given the website application files. I need to modify and also
> > > import my html and css code into this folder on my computer.
>
> > > The problem is when manage.py is in that app folder and when I run it
> > > in terminal I get a error sayin g can't find SDK.
>
> > > yet when I move that manage.py file to the google app engine folder It
> > > finds the SDK  and runs fine well I get also a error saying module
> > > contact is missing.
>
> > > So I told the programmer that problem. He told me it needs to stay in
> > > that app folder.
>
> > > Then to fix the cannot find SDK error I have to use that path stuff.
>
> > > I wasn't sure if  he means  to add that as code to manage.py  or to
> > > type that in the terminal.
>
> > > Or if it was a example of where the path should be.
>
> > > I am not totally sure.   I just have to figure this all out quickly.
> > > The ceo is very ticked off and really wants it done really soon.
>
> > > He is now asking me when I will be done with making my changes to the
> > > site. He already got another project for me.
>
> > > I am not making big bucks but I need some experience on my resume
> > > because alot of jobs turned me down because I didn't have industry
> > > experience.
>
> > > So this is the only reason I am doing this. I am just getting paid 75
> > > bucks for the first modifications.
>
> > > So I really do need a faster way to understand how to use google
> > > engine.
>
> > > I have experience in html, css, php, apache, mysql, microsoft access.
> > > I do have experience with python.
>
> > > I don't hever experience with google apps engine. I am not even well
> > > experienced with python to work on big software apps.
>
> > > So if you do know php and what I basicly know. I would like someone to
> > > explain it in terms what I know saying for like php mysql
>
> > > you would use code like this for python/google apps etc.
>
> > > I wish I had more time where I can look at the guides and take my time
> > > learning and experiencing google apps but I don't.
>
> > > the ceo knows I don't have experience with google.
>
> > > I am also the only one doing it cheap for him. Others asked him for
> > > 1,500 bucks.
>
> > > SO currently I am stressing out. He wants me to say a deadline but yet
> > > I can't really say when I will be finished unless I have control and
> > > understand the structure of the google app engine so I would know what
> > > to do and work on it quickly.
>
> > > Last night I didn't get to go to bed cause while I am trying to learn
> > > this stuff I was also studying for exams for college classes and also
> > > had to do a tax problem.
>
> > > So I  hope you understand my stress level. I wish I had more time but
> > > I don't I normally don't ask alot of questions but since I have
> > > limited time I need to know what links I would need so I don't waste
> > > any time looking at something that I wouldn't need at all to learn.
>
> > > On Apr 7, 11:18 am, Ray Malone <rayish...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Take a look at the documentation for uploading an app 
> > > > herehttp://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/tools/uploadinganapp.html
>
> > > > However, I think you are using the app engine patch and may need this
> > > > instead.  http://code.google.com/p/app-engine-patch/wiki/GettingStarted
>
> > > > I don't use the path and don't have experience setting it up, but this
> > > > should help.
>
> > > > On Apr 7, 10:52 am, Aaron <shyhockey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > HI, I am very confused on how to use google app engine. I have a job
> > > > > as a vp of technlology. I was a website developer.
>
> > > > > I only know html,css, php, python.  I never heavily used python so I
> > > > > am rusty with it.
>
> > > > > I only had experience with using apache and mysql.
>
> > > > > I am new to google application and have been doing research on it. I
> > > > > found it uses a different database system.
>
> > > > > I already made the website for the company now I need to upload it to
> > > > > google apps and also make modifications in python scripts to add some
> > > > > server sided functionalities.
>
> > > > > So far it's been about 4 weeks. My ceo is really upset. He never gave
> > > > > a deadline but he wanted it to be done as soon as possible. He is now
> > > > > breathing down my neck. I am stressed out .
>
> > > > > So to make matters worst I need to learn how google apps engine works
> > > > > and how I can use it in a quick manner.
>
> > > > > The ceo has been talking to the previous VP of technology.
>
> > > > > He is the one the made the website. I just added onto it. So He gave
> > > > > me the original website files meaningthe python and the folder.
>
> > > > > He told me I have to use manage.py  to update or test run the app
> > > > > meaning the website.
>
> > > > > Currently I tried the manage.py which was inthe apps folder  and this
> > > > > folder was in googles engine folder.
>
> > > > > I been getting a error saying can't find SDK.
>
> > > > > So I moved the manage.py to googles app engine folder and it worked.
> > > > > Yet when I tried updating It showed 96 files trying to be updated to
> > > > > googles server then I got a limit error.
>
> > > > > I e-mailed the ceo which e-mailed the previous programmer. He told me
> > > > > that the manage.py needs to stay in the app folder not the google
> > > > > engine folder.
>
> > > > > He told me I need to use  PATH=$PATH:/path/to/google_
>
> > > > > I don't understand what he ment by that.   I am guessing  I had to add
> > > > > that to manage.py?
>
> > > > > Not sure I might e-mail them back.
>
> > > > > So currently I need to just update a website which is a web app on
> > > > > google app engine.
>
> > > > > So I need to learn the structure of how to use  google apps engine.
>
> > > > > I need a tutorial that would explain  me the structure  from a php/
> > > > > mysql apache user point of view.
>
> > > > > Meaning I need a explanation  what's used with php and what is used in
> > > > > google that relates to php in the server sided way.
>
> > > > > I thiink that would be the quickest way i can learn this else I might
> > > > > get fired. I do really need to keep this job.
>
> > > > > I told the ceo that I am not experienced in google nor python. I  did
> > > > > some coding in python but it wasn't that much to make any app.
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