As I'm using Google App Engine for small/medium business public facing websites and web apps, I very much hope the pay-as-you-go version remains an equal partner to the Business version.
And I assume it will. As many features, like XMPP support, are very much geared towards public (consumer) sites, and experimenting with the likes of Google Wave and Open Social apps. So the Business announcement seems to really be providing for mainly Intranet needs. Personally, I'm happy with no-SQL Big Table support on regular App Engine. But I'd certainly add another vote for SSL on pay-as-you-go App Engine. And am keen to know how the Search and Background Tasks type features may pan out. Andy On May 20, 3:40 pm, johnP <j...@thinkwave.com> wrote: > "A: Yes. There will be a part of AEfB that you can use outside of a > company. The pricing of these features may be different; we're still > figuring that out. " > > Unfounded Theory Alert! > > I'd imagine that until now, Appengine was an isolated group within > Google. AEb is a new joint offering formed by a 'joint venture' > between the Appengine group and the Apps group. The Apps group > probably has an infrastructure to provide an SLA and has the control > over the network to provide SSL. That's why in announcing AEb, they > mentioned these functions as the value-add over regular Appengine. > > That's why there was such a tortured answer about SSL for regular > Appengine. It's not in the Appengine team's control; it's not clear > if it should be provided as a core feature for both products or as > feature to differentiate the products; they do know they want to > charge extra for it; and the overall outcome has not yet been worked > out. Our fate is is being decided... > > So probably, now's as good a time as any to pound the drum and ensure > that the Appengine team does not take second position to the Apps team > in driving the overall feature set. > > End Unfounded Theory. > > On May 20, 6:21 am, bFlood <bflood...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > i found the Wave here:http://bit.ly/9soPI1 > > > and here was one of the puzzling answer I remembered: > > Q: AEfB will support SSL for top-level domains. Will this be > > available for non-enterprise (public) apps? > > A: Yes. There will be a part of AEfB that you can use outside of a > > company. The pricing of these features may be different; we're still > > figuring that out. > > > maybe the Google guy just misheard him but I thought he was asking if > > regular GAE apps will get SSL for top-level domains. > > > cheers > > brian > > > On May 20, 8:32 am, gops <patelgo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > why not just introduce, SQL as a additional api along with datastore > > > and blobstore as sqlstore with different costing model ? , and there > > > is already plenty of way to connect to google apps , why not just add > > > SLA as one more option instead of creating whole new AEfB , and while > > > already charging for users already via google apps, why should charge > > > them again for each individual app ? , pay as much as you use is > > > pretty beautiful model please please stick to it, even thou we > > > developers are not enterprise, our clients are enterprise. and we love > > > to see they are using google apps. > > > > On May 20, 5:06 pm, bFlood <bflood...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > with the current information on this topic, I feel a little uneasy as > > > > well. > > > > > there was a Google Wave from AppEngine fireside chat yesterday that > > > > had some more info (can't find link anymore). from memory, please > > > > correct if I've got it wrong: > > > > > when asked about AEfB and regular GAE, one answer was that they are > > > > firmly committed to parity between the two. no details given except > > > > one said AEfB was for intranet usage > > > > > when asked if GAE would get SSL they answered that AEfB would handle > > > > that and would have some form of pricing for internet users. I didn't > > > > get the sense that SSL or an SLA were coming to GAE (from the limited > > > > info on the wave) > > > > > this should be easy for Google to clear up. I think everyone can see > > > > the benefit of a different pricing model for enterprise users and I > > > > think per user pricing is great for a lot of apps. however, the real > > > > question is whether regular GAE is going to get SSL, an SLA, and > > > > access to the new SQL service. if the answer is no, then this is just > > > > a business decision by google to force potential enterprise clients > > > > into a per user model (which IMO is a bad idea, there should be a > > > > clear choice fro pricing models). please clear this up google, you're > > > > making a lot of your early adopters anxious :) > > > > > cheers > > > > brian > > > > > On May 20, 6:09 am, Jesaja Everling <jeverl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > According to the FAQ, per user really means per intranet user here: > > > > > > "You can also use App Engine for Business to build external > > > > > applications. > > > > > We’re still working out the details on pricing so stay tuned (but > > > > > don’t > > > > > worry, you won't have to pay per > > > > > user!)."http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/business.html > > > > > > It seems to be more like a special version of App Engine intended for > > > > > (not > > > > > only) internal use by Google Apps customers. > > > > > If this is right, it sounds good. > > > > > If it were to introduce some artificial segmentation and the regular > > > > > App > > > > > Engine were to become some strip-down limited version of App Engine > > > > > for > > > > > Business, it wouldn't sound good at all. > > > > > But this would be a bad move, and it seems Google is more in the mood > > > > > for > > > > > good moves at the moment ( VP8 :) ). > > > > > > On May 20, 2010 4:40 AM, "Shinichi Nakanishi" <stouton...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Yes, if it was Google Apps, it would make sense. But for App Engine, > > > > > I don't think "per user registered in the Apps domain" thing works. > > > > > For instance, what if you do not register your domain but use > > > > > your-subdomain.appspot.com? 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