The app id is "empower-text" and my authentication id is broc.seib [at]
gentomi.com.   Update:  Late this afternoon I successfully deployed my app.
Below I explain why I think it worked. Can you confirm or rule out my
suspicions below?


Here's what I suspect happened: When I "transitioned" my domain's accounts,
I kept choosing the "Do this later" button, being nonplussed with the other
choices. Today I bit the bullet and took the choice to create a new gmail
account, and I think this action *truly* completed my transition. I had
previously thought I was already done, because my initial transition email
from "fullaccounts-tt-nore...@google.com" said I was done. It read,

  "Hello Google Apps user,
   Your Google Apps account has been successfully transitioned to function
more like a full Google Account! [...]"

While I was in this not-fully-transitioned state, whenever I would login
with my login.n...@mydomain.com account, I would always be presented with
the "Your account has changed" page (the one with the two choices: 1) create
yet another gmail account, or 2) use non-google account like yahoo). This
meant something was catching this not-fully-transitioned state and
redirecting me to this page. But somehow at this point I was considered to
be logged in as login.name%mydomain....@gtempaccount.com.

So when I was deploying my app I suspect when the appcfg client was
connecting to appengine, it must have been hitting this same redirection,
and my http session ending up having an identity of login.name%mydomain.com@
gtempaccount.com, and thus an authorization error.... ???? I'm purely
speculating here. What do you think?


So if my reluctance to make a choice caused this problem, then I guess my
advice to others is to make their choice and move on! Don't choose "Do it
later". I just didn't like any of my choices. Yes, I understand not being
able to "merge" two accounts because if they use the same google product,
then the data for that product cannot really be "merged". But what about the
case where a product is only used for one of the two accounts? Why can't I
just "absorb" that product's data into one of the two accounts? There is
nothing for it to conflict against...   right?  Maybe this is a naive
perspective.

My concrete example is Google Checkout: I used my
login.n...@mydomain.comwhen I created an account as a merchant in
Google Checkout. I *want* to use
my merchant account as a user *in* my domain! But now it is split off to be
accessed under a separate gmail ID. As an administrator of mydomain.com I
should have had the option to "bring in" the Google Checkout product data to
my domain. Yes I understand that technically that data belongs to that
individual as a "personal account", and me as a domain administrator may not
have the "right" to grab an individual's personal data -- like picasa pics,
or such. But there must be a way for all parties to agree "this is OK". In
this case all these parties is a single person: me. And I want to do it all
under one roof for my business.

I see that in the last 24 hours the "Your account has changed" page now
shows more specifically which products are being used with your account.
This is paramount to making good transition choices. I just wish those
individual listed products would indicate if there may be a "request product
data to be moved" into the domain or not.

Sorry I went off topic from being app-engine specific. I hope other
"transitioning" app engine users can avoid this problem (if my guess of the
cause was correct). I need to direct this feedback to the accounts folks at
Google working on account transition.

Regards,
Broc


On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Ikai Lan (Google)
<ikai.l+gro...@google.com<ikai.l%2bgro...@google.com>
> wrote:

> What's your application ID? Are you deploying using the Gmail address
> you're sending this email from?
>
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> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:27 PM, broc.seib <broc.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If a Google person looks for evidence in the app engine logs, the last
>> (failed) deploy attempt I made was about fifteen minutes ago, i.e.
>> 12:09AM 9/30/2010 EST. I got another 403 error in my deploy logs.
>>
>> I was also going to try to manually send a war file up using appcfg,
>> but I can't seem to export a war file out of eclipse for this type of
>> project...
>>
>> Broc
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 29, 10:21 pm, Broc Seib <broc.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > In the last 24 ~ 48 hours, I have no longer been able to deploy apps to
>> > my app engine account. I get error "Unable to update app: Unknown".
>> >
>> > To be specific, I right-click my project in Eclipse, choose "Google" in
>> > the menu, and "Deploy to App Engine" in the sub-menu. I supply my id
>> > (my.em...@mydomain.com), and my password. These are the exact same
>> > credentials that allow me access tohttps://
>> appengine.google.com/a/mydomain.com, and these credentials
>> > have worked for my previous 23 deployments. My password is correct, no
>> > CAPS LOCK, etc., and I can access my app engine account online just
>> > fine.
>> >
>> > Here's what happens: After a couple minutes of compiling and staging
>> > are complete, I get an error dialog in eclipse that says: "Unable to
>> > update app: Unknown". The deployment console says:
>> >
>> > [... compiling and staging ...]
>> > Initiating update.
>> > com.google.appengine.tools.admin.ServerConnection$ClientLoginException:
>> > Unknown
>> >
>> > Debugging information may be found in C:\Documents and
>> > Settings\username\Local
>> > Settings\Temp\appengine-deploy5570861988423929801.log
>> >
>> > This debugging log file is attached. There is a line that stands out in
>> > that log file. It is a 403 error code which implies that there is
>> > likely some kind of *authorization* issue going on after I authenticate.
>> >
>> > Caused by: java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP response code: 403
>> > for URL:https://www.google.com/accounts/ClientLogin
>> >
>> > OK. There is one more fact I am suspicious about: My Google Apps domain
>> > is participating in the "accounts transition", i.e.,
>> http://www.google.com/support/accounts/bin/answer.py?answer=187513
>> > However, I successfully "transistioned" my domain on Sep. 11, and have
>> > successfully deployed to app engine between then and now. But this
>> > account transition thing *is* a variable I am suspicious about.
>> >
>> > Can anyone provide insight into why this is failing? Any workarounds? I
>> > have tried multiple times all day today and it consistently fails. I am
>> > completely dead in the water unable to update my app.... :-|
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Broc
>> >
>> >  appengine-deploy5570861988423929801.log.txt
>> > 2KViewDownload
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