Thanks for your feedback. I should have guessed. I'm not sure if
there's much point for me in developing the REST architecture on GAE
and then using something else for XMPP -- especially if I have to
manage users across the systems.
The XMPP implementation is... not well thought out :(
bjorn
On Jan 16, 5:21 pm, Ryan <ryanleeschnei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Last I looked GAE's XMPP is limited to just sending <message/> stanzas
> to your application, and having the application respond with a reply
> <message/>. If you want to do anything more complicated with XMPP you
> have to use your own servers or server components on some other
> infrastructure. That said, you could still develop the REST interface
> on GAE, and have your own XMPP server component act as a "proxy" to
> the REST interface by marshaling incoming <iq/> request/responses to
> the REST interface. Running your own XMPP servers on cheap linux
> hosts and/or scaling server capacity with Rackspace or Amazon seems
> like a viable solution (with all your data load on GAE you can just
> use as many of the cheapest Amazon/Rackspace instances you need to
> maintain client connections).
>
> I'd love to see "full" support for XMPP on GAE, but given XMPP's
> stateful nature I doubt we'll see it any time soon, if at all.
>
> Thanks,
> Ryan
>
> On Jan 16, 9:04 am, Bjorn Roche <bj...@xowave.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hey all,
>
> > I am planning to build a web app that provides ReST and XMPP to
> > custom-built clients. GAE seems like a good choice as google talk is
> > supposed to be part of the package, but I'm confused about how
> > authentication works with web vs XMPP. I realize I can either do my
> > own authentication or use google accounts for the web services.
>
> > With Google accounts authentication, how would the clients
> > authenticate into XMPP? Would it be sufficient to ask the user for
> > username/password? I assume that would get the user into XMPP, but not
> > the web services, since google protects its account login services
> > when doing this on the web. If this does work, what are the
> > implications? I'm not going to be able to build in features like
> > facebook connect, etc, right? What about portability away from Google?
>
> > If I manage my own user accounts, how can the clients use google's
> > XMPP services? Is this possible? I don't see any way to create XMPP
> > accounts or anything like that (user-n...@my-app.appspotchat.com seems
> > like something I should/could manage, but I don't see an API. If I let
> > everyone log in with the same account, can I prevent them from
> > changing the password?).
>
> > Any advice here is appreciated. Thanks,
>
> > bjorn
>
> > -----------------------------
> > Bjorn Rochehttp://www.xonami.com
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