I would assume so but can't answer that definitely. I think it's based on protobuf but not sure.
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Brandon Wirtz <drak...@digerat.com> wrote: > I had some spots where I wasn't using non-indexed/able data types, hopefully > that will reduce this storage. > > I haven't built a test case, do you happen to know if all types write/read > at the same speed assuming they are the same size? > > -Brandon > > -----Original Message----- > From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com > [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Johnson > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 11:39 AM > To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Still confused about Storage reported for > billing and Datastore > > Vacuuming just applies to your configured indexes not the single-property > indexes themselves. There was a post recently about possibly making it more > obvious somewhere in the dataviewer which properties are indexed and which > aren't because people can start off with something indexed then unindex that > property (or vice versa) and they think it applies to all existing > properties but it doesn't. You have to run throw them all and unindex (or > index) existing entities. > > Yes it would be nice if were broken out a little better as two what is > included in the total usage like task queue storage, etc. Also, watch out > for those long property names, depending on the number of entities, all of > it can add up. > > > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Brandon Wirtz <drak...@digerat.com> wrote: >> I think I went out of my way to use non-indexable types, but I'll make >> sure that is the case. I often store things as type blob to prevent > indexing. >> But I may have set some things to the wrong type. >> >> You don't think Vacuuming would help with this? >> >> Considering all the other data shown in Quota Details it would be nice >> if Google exposed this. >> >> Thanks for the help I appreciated it both times. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen >> Johnson >> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 10:42 AM >> To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Still confused about Storage reported >> for billing and Datastore >> >> Hi Brandon, >> Different Steve here. Anyway, when I mentioned in a different thread >> about indexes, you also have to count your property indexes as well. >> For each property that you have indexed (and these wouldn't show up in >> your configured indexes) you have two indexes defined: one ascending >> and one descending. If these properties have large amounts of data, >> for example, string/text data then it is copied to those indexes as >> well as the keys so if you have very long key values then it is in >> those indexes. Also, if you have long property names those are copied >> over and over again with each piece of data. In a different thread I >> posted some general guidelines that help to keep these numbers low. >> Steve >> >> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Brandon Wirtz <drak...@digerat.com> > wrote: >>> Yes, Yes, Yes. >>> >>> $9 was the amount of Mt. Dew Per day, not per month. Currently it's >>> across >>> 10 apps, but in the next month it is across 15k domains. Rounding >>> Errors could pay for another 3 interns at that scale. >>> >>> Also because the number seems to be so close to 2.5:1 I wonder if >>> this is a bug. I don't mind paying if that is the pricing. >>> >>> Really All I am looking for is, is it accurate, and if so where is >>> the other storage being used, and do I have control over it. I >>> reduced my bill about 60% last week through re-writing my code, and >>> adding better caching and memory management. If I can find another >>> 10% that goes >> to my bottom line. >>> So Capitalism is driving my innovation. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen >>> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:37 AM >>> To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Still confused about Storage reported >>> for billing and Datastore >>> >>> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Brandon Wirtz <drak...@digerat.com> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> I still have 2.5x as much billed usage for HR Storage as I have >>>> reported by the datastore admin. >>>> ... >>>> It's only 10 cents a day on most my apps, but that's $3 a month. >>>> (per >>>> app) which isn't a big deal yet, but it adds up across lots of apps. >>> >>> That's less than you spend on Mountain Dew each month. >>> >>> Have you tried putting Ad Sense on these pages? >>> >>> This aint no hippy commune. This is capitalism and that's what drives >>> innovation. >>> >>>> I don't mind if I'm really using it... >>> >>> Interesting perspective - "Pay for only for what you use", as Amazon >>> would say. >>> >>> :-) >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Google App Engine" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >> "Google App Engine" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Google App Engine" group. >> To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. >> To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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