On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Stephen <sdeasey+gro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Jeff Schnitzer <j...@infohazard.org> wrote:
>>
>> http://www.linode.com/index.cfm
>> http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/cloud_hosting_products/servers/pricing/
>> http://www.slicehost.com/
>> http://prgmr.com/xen/
>
> I wonder if the above don't mention cpu because it is ample and nobody
> cares, or they are skimping and don't want to highlight it. Seems like
> they divide the box according to ram, and whatever portion that is,
> you get a similar portion of the box's cpu. If they're buying the same
> boxes as everyone else it probably works out the same.

If that performance comparison is accurate, it seems that EC2 is the
one skimping.  The difference in performance between Linode and EC2 is
staggering... 2-6 times the performance for cpu-bound activities.

> Anyway, if Google's primary concern is ram the new pricing scheme
> still discriminates against efficiency. Sure, charging by instance
> uptime accounts for large idle instances, but many Python apps manage
> with 15MB where as an Enterprise Java app might need 75-100MB.

Interesting point.  But even if a Java appserver requires 6X the RAM,
it will be more efficient if concurrency is higher than 6 (presuming
the process isn't cpu-bound - which very few frontend apps are).  And
while most python apps may stay under 30M, not all do.

> Maybe they should charge for ram? Greg:
>
> Q: You seem to be trying to account for RAM in the new model.  Will I
> be able to purchase Frontend Instances that use different amounts of
> memory?
> A: We are only planning on having one size of Frontend Instance.

It is an interesting question.  On the other hand, I prefer a simpler
billing and development model.  I would hate to have to run a bunch of
tests to measure exactly how small an instance will fit my app... one
of the nice things about GAE is how it takes these infrastructurey
problems off of my list of concerns.

Jeff

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