D'oh! I knew that looked too big! :)

On Oct 8, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Philip wrote:

> Joshua, your calculation is wrong. A year has 8760 hours, 0.05% of
> that time the service can be down -> 8760 * 0.0005 = 4.38 hours of
> downtime.
> 
> On Oct 8, 7:52 pm, Joshua Smith <joshuaesm...@charter.net> wrote:
>> Google had a lot of trouble with their original database, known as M/S.  It 
>> was responsible for the downtime you heard about.
>> 
>> So they invented a new database, known as HR, and it has never gone down 
>> since they released it.
>> 
>> So if you use HR (which is the default for new projects), history suggests 
>> that you will not see outages.
>> 
>> But be realistic: Everything goes down. Everything. There is no 100% uptime 
>> guarantee.  Google is promising 99.95% which means they are OK with 438 
>> hours of downtime a year. And that's only a soft promise (like most SLAs, 
>> your recourse is negligible if you suffer losses because of their failures).
>> 
>> I'm quite sure that GAE on HR has better uptime than I could achieve with 
>> anything I could build and manage.
>> 
>> On Oct 8, 2011, at 11:42 AM, ahmed adel wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> What do you mean by HR?
>> 
>>> What I meant is , If I have application hosted in Google Apps Engine ,
>>> will it be affected in the future for example due to data center crash
>>> like what happened before.
>> 
>>> We will need this application be available starting from 7 AM to 1 PM
>>> Cairo time. because of this I am asking about the crash time in Google
>>> Apps engine.
>> 
>>> I am asking this because my manager wanna be sure our app won't be
>>> available for use. (internal and external).
>> 
>>> Also I heard that Google apps engine was down many times and according
>>> to this many companies changed the host from Apps engine to another
>>> PAAS provider.
>> 
>>> Another reason for my question is I suggested to develop over Google
>>> Apps Engine for our Customers , but also I told Our management that we
>>> can not trust Google Apps Engine to do this for now , because as you
>>> know and correct me if I am wrong (Google don't care much about Apps
>>> Engine Support)
>> 
>>> so my question will be now , can I trust Google Apps engine to use it
>>> for our Clients? in case of yes or no please tell me reasons for your
>>> answer.
>> 
>>> On Oct 6, 7:50 pm, Joshua Smith <joshuaesm...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>> Depends how you define "down."
>> 
>>>> If you only consider HR, it hasn't gone completely down ever.  Some bugs 
>>>> have happened (like losing the ability to send mail to gmail addresses 
>>>> with .'s in them) which reduced functionality for HR, and there have been 
>>>> times when you could not update your app.  But I don't think HR has ever 
>>>> stopped serving since it was introduced.
>> 
>>>> M/S has been down lots of times, sometimes for extended periods. But 
>>>> that's irrelevant if you are using HR, which you should be if you care 
>>>> about downtime.
>> 
>>>> -Joshua
>> 
>>>> On Oct 6, 2011, at 1:42 PM, ahmed adel wrote:
>> 
>>>>> I need to know how many time did Google apps engine went down since
>>>>> launching this service also I need to know for how many hours and what
>>>>> is the time exactly.
>> 
>>>>> Also I need to know your opinion about the below.
>> 
>>>>> We are planning to develop a product over Google apps  engine , a big
>>>>> project actually for our company.
>> 
>>>>> so should I start using Google apps engine or should I use another
>>>>> PAAS and if so what is the recommended PAAS.
>> 
>>>>> thx
>> 
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