Are you experiencing issues where Memcache holds data beyond expiration?  Or
just fails to over-write when you update with new before the old expires?

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From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
[mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Crizegg
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 1:37 PM
To: Google App Engine
Subject: [google-appengine] Re: What if I dpn't want memcache to fail
silently?

Setting the cache is where my pain point lies. I see zero log messages
indicating a memcache failed write on the python side. I can't think of a
case where you WOULDN'T want to know memcache failed to overwrite stale
data. Since the next update is going to read the stale data from memcache
and write it to the datastore!

> In Javaland there is an error handler you can set on MemcacheService
@Jeff, this is the exact type of solution I'm after for Python. I'm thinking
proxy hooks with backed off retries.

Will post soon.

On Nov 30, 10:43 am, "Brandon Wirtz" <drak...@digerat.com> wrote:
> Yes,
>
> But that is "Drawer failed to open"
>
> Memcache and the drawer should error when they fail to be a place that 
> may or may not contain data.
>
> Drawer is too busy an can't be bothered right now to check if it has 
> your socks, is different than there are no socks.  Drawer is suffering 
> from non-existence issues there is no drawer.  Or if you are on MS. 
> Drawer only allows you to read socks but you can't store new socks at 
> this time so stop asking.
>
> From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Schnitzer
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 5:13 AM
> To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Re: What if I dpn't want memcache to 
> fail silently?
>
> FWIW, there are good reasons to ask when memcache fails - I mean a 
> real failure (say, timeout exception) rather than mere lack of data.
>
> For example, if you are put()ing a new value in memcache and you want 
> to make sure the old value is replaced, you really want to be able to 
> retry if the put() fails.
>
> In Javaland there is an error handler you can set on MemcacheService - 
> the default is to log and ignore errors but you can set a strict error 
> handler that propagates exceptions.  Dunno what the equivalent for Python
is.
>
> Jeff
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 2:03 AM, Brandon Wirtz <drak...@digerat.com>
wrote:
>
> My socks are not in the drawer.
>
> Return Error ("What has the Maid been doing all day?"
>
> Just because the socks aren't in the drawer doesn't mean the drawer is 
> in error.
>
> From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Hoffman
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 9:39 PM
> To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [google-appengine] Re: What if I dpn't want memcache to fail 
> silently?
>
> Hi
>
> Its not generally considered an error if something is not in the 
> cache, (it is after all a cache, not a guarunteed storage.)
>
> Use a decorator to raise KeyError or whatever you feel is appropriate.
>
> Rgds
>
> Tim
>
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