hi greg,

thank you for the explaination. 
yes the settings are a bit confusing and its not really clear what exactly to 
expect when setting the instances sliders.

andreas

On Jan 4, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Gregory D'alesandre wrote:

> Hi Andreas,
> 
> I know this might be a bit confusing.  The setting are saying that you want a 
> maximum of 2 idle instances and presumably a mininimum of 2 idle instances.  
> Idle instances are ready to serve traffic when it hits.  Neither or these 
> dictate the number of Active Instances that you are using.  Active instances 
> are instances currently processing requests.  GAE spins up instances as 
> needed to serve traffic, I assume you had traffic spikes during the time that 
> more instances were spun up.  The billed line showed you were only billed for 
> at most 2 of the idle instances (as you'd presumably set max idle to 2) but 
> you are still charged for all of the active instances that served the traffic.
> 
> If you would rather GAE drop your traffic instead of serving it, set min 
> pending latency to a higher value and it means the scheduler will leave 
> requests in the queue longer before it tries to spin up an instance to handle 
> it.
> 
> I hope that helps explain what happened and we do need to improve the 
> documentation about this,
> 
> Greg D'Alesandre
> Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine
> 
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Andreas <a.schmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> if i set 2 resident and 2 idle i expect it to be max 4 and billed for max 4 
> instances.
> what i get is:
> 
> 
> 
> where you can see that way too many instances are spin up when its not needed 
> at all.
> i know im not the first and i actually didn't care as long as the graph did 
> show me that i was billed only for what i set.
> this is not happening today and i really dont want or need to pay for someone 
> others bugs.
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 4, 2012, at 3:08 PM, sb wrote:
> 
> > The idle instances that you have set control the amount instances that
> > are available to serve when extra traffic hits your site. You are not
> > the first person to be confused by this one.
> >
> > The documentation on this could probably do with something of an
> > update.
> >
> > This page still have links to "Always on".
> > http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/adminconsole/instances.html
> >
> > On Jan 4, 2:59 pm, Andreas <a.schmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> i set my instance scheduler to 2 resident and max 2 idle. and it worked 
> >> well till today.
> >>
> >>  Screen shot 2012-01-04 at 2.53.14 PM.png
> >> 115KViewDownload
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> why am i getting billed for more than 2 instances? why are there up to 40 
> >> instances in this graph?
> >>
> >>  Screen shot 2012-01-04 at 2.51.56 PM.png
> >> 64KViewDownload
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> i know the instance scheduler is not working perfectly but i've never seen 
> >> such a spin up.
> >> dont really care about how many instances are up but i really dont want to 
> >> be charged for more than i decided to be billed.
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