On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 2:14:44 AM UTC+8, barryhunter wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Tapir <tapi...@gmail.com <javascript:>>wrote: > >> >> >> On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 1:48:10 AM UTC+8, barryhunter wrote: >>> >>> Apples to Oranges. >>> >>> DigitalOcean to Compute Engine would be a fairer comparison. They are >>> both the same 'type' of product. >>> >>> >>> AppEngine isn't a magic 'fit all' solution. Many types of applications >>> you could very definitly run (much) cheaper elsewhere (particularly ones >>> that are small enough to fit in a single VPS). >>> >>> But there certain types of applications that will be 'cheaper' on >>> AppEngine (particularly when consider AppEngine is managed hosting). >>> >> >> If the free quota provided by App Engine is not considered, I don't think >> there are any types will be cheaper in App Engine. >> > > Imagine if your application was big enough, that it needed say 150 VPS's > to run. > > Some of them running memcache, some running apache, some running > elasticsearch, some running couchdb, some running haproxy, some running > logging servers, some running management nodes. Warm redunacy servers. >
If my website needs 150 VPS's to run, I would NEVER consider using GAE at all! Assume the 150 VPS's are the lowest end Linode VPS, which is more powerful than GAE B8 instance type. The cost on GAE $480 * 150 = $72,000 (this is an at-least cost, for bandwidth and bigtable and many things will charge you extra more) The cost on Linnode: $20 * 750 = $15,000 + two IT maintainer cost ($10,000 x 2) = total $45,000. (In fact, one IT maintainer would be ok). For both cases, app developing cost would be the same, so ignored. The result is very clear. > You could perhaps get that very cheap, but you would have to add the cost > of building the system to orcestrate all those 'servers'. Both > coding/developer time to right the tools. But also the system administrator > type to maintain and monitori all those systems. > > You could use services like RightScale etc, to manage all those servers. > But that adds another layer of fees and management. > > > The raw 'hosting' may be cheap, but it doesnt consider all the management > cost. > > > > >> >> I admit DigitalOcean is an alternative to GCE. But standing at the >> position of Google, the comparison is not unfair. Google charges too >> many for a low cost. >> > > I'm not denying that AppEngine might be expensive, but you can't say that > by just comparing a few numbers for a single VPS. There is a lot more to > consider. > > > A fairer comparson, would be some sort of managed hosting, something like > > http://www.rackspace.com/managed-hosting/dedicated-servers/pricing/ > > but that still doesnt consider everything. > > >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Tapir <tapi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> DigitalOcean: 2.0GHz, 512MB RAM, 20GB SSD, 1TB Bandwidth for free. >>>> $5/month >>>> Google App Engine B4 Instance: 2.4GHz, 512MB, No Hard Disk, Bandwidth >>>> needs extra money, $230/month >>>> >>>> 230/5 = 46! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Google App Engine" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to google-appengi...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to google-a...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Google App Engine" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to google-appengi...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to >> google-a...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
