Hi Joshua,

For App Engine Standard:

Take a look at the appengine-web.xml reference
<https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/java/config/appref#syntax>.
Specifically *async-session-persistence*, *sessions-enabled*,

I'm out for 3 weeks this month, but hope to review and fix all the Java
Bookshelfs in early December.  If there are other areas that you think they
don't meet expectations, please let me know.

Regards,

Les

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 7:16 AM, 'Yannick (Cloud Platform Support)' via
Google App Engine <google-appengine@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> The exact technical details of session support are not publicly
> documented, but the appengine-web.xml Reference
> <https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/java/config/appref?hl=fr#sessions_enabled>
>  you
> pointed to before does say it stores the data on the Datastore with
> Memcache acting as a speed boost. That is to say it stores it in the same
> way you should be storing session data if you were to handle it yourself.
>
> And no, at this time this system only supports valid Google accounts,
> which are gmail.com accounts or a GSuite domain's accounts.
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 6:34:21 AM UTC-4, Joshua Fox wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Note that session support is something that is done per-runtime and
>>> per-framework,
>>>
>>
>> I am asking specifically about Google Application Engine Standard
>> Environment Java 7; and for Java 8.
>>
>> but most if not all of them include it as it is indeed a basic feature of
>>> a web server. Part of the Bookshelf tutorial deals with using sessions
>>> <https://cloud.google.com/java/getting-started-appengine-standard/authenticate-users>
>>> .
>>>
>>
>> Thank you. I see that that indeed supports  req.getSession().
>> setAttribute(...)
>>
>> How is this data stored so that it is accessible to all Instances? In the
>> Memcache?
>>
>> Apparently this uses the Users API
>> <https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/java/users/?hl=en>,
>> which works with Google or OAuth authentication. Does GAE Standard Env use
>> a Session Store, accessible for all Instances, which is usable with
>> user-authentication in general? According to this StackOverflow answer
>> <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18860186/>,  it does not.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 3:30:28 AM UTC-4, Joshua Fox wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What is the recommended way to do Session Management on Google
>>>> Application Engine?
>>>>
>>>> In the webapp world, the usual implementation with a session store
>>>> (Redis/Memcache/RDBMS etc) that is shared by all server-instances.
>>>>
>>>> So, when the Java code calls
>>>>
>>>>  request.getSession().setAttribute("UserName", username);
>>>>
>>>>                       that value will be accessible for multiple
>>>> requests by this browser.
>>>>
>>>> A websearch shows some advice:
>>>>
>>>>    - Implement it yourself
>>>>    - Various  open-source libraries, non-standard and mostly
>>>>    unmaintained
>>>>
>>>> I would expect a PaaS like GAE to have  Session Management
>>>>  out-of-the-box.
>>>>
>>>> This StackOverflow answer
>>>> <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/28689941/how-to-deal-with-sessions-in-google-app-engine>
>>>>  says "AppEngine
>>>> uses Datastore to store the session informations and memcache for faster
>>>> access" and this official documentation
>>>> <https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/java/config/appref> 
>>>> mentions that
>>>> "Session data is always written synchronously to memcache."
>>>>
>>>> But on the other hand this tutorial
>>>> <https://cloud.google.com/community/tutorials/express-memcached-session-appengine>
>>>>  suggests
>>>> that  session management must be added to GAE.
>>>>
>>>> How should we do Session Management?
>>>>
>>>>
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