Hi Matt,

Yes, earlier I was trying to make dev_appserver work (along with this flag) 
from within PyCharm. That did not work if the base python is set up to be 
Python 3 in PyCharm project.

It worked through command line.

It also started to work when I changed the base python to python 2 in pycharm 
project setup.

Now the only thing that does not work is PyCharm debugger along with 
dev_appserver with this runtime_python_path flag. I am assuming it is due to 
some conflict between python 2 and python 3 libs somehow getting mixed up.

Even if I run dev_appserver thru console/command line and then try to attach 
PyCharm debugger with this task, it doesn’t work.

It will help if there is a way to make it work and also is well documented.

Regards

Sajal

> On 01-Dec-2021, at 11:11 PM, 'Matt Larkin' via Google App Engine 
> <google-appengine@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> >dev_appserver doesn't seem to work anyway - gives an assertion error 
> >(expects python 2, I believe) while my project is Python 3 - in fact trying 
> >to migrate from 2 to 3.
> Sorry, missed this.  Without any more details, my guess is you need to 
> provide the `--runtime_python_path` flag (docs 
> <https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/python3/tools/using-local-server#running_the_local_development_server_dev_appserverpy>).
>   If you do not, dev_appserver looks for a Py2 interpreter in order to run 
> (that's the default to remain consistent with legacy behavior).  If that 
> doesn't work, please provide more details (e.g. full error message).
> 
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 9:34 AM Matt Larkin <mslar...@google.com 
> <mailto:mslar...@google.com>> wrote:
> Thanks.  I'm following-up with the engineering team to determine if this is 
> expected (meaning the docs need to be updated) or a bug.
> 
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 1:38 AM Sajal Gupta <sa...@visiblebox.com 
> <mailto:sa...@visiblebox.com>> wrote:
> Am able to make this work now using dev_appserver. It doesn't work with flask 
> server (at least I cold not make it work using flask server as above).
> 
> If that is indeed the case, may be the GAE getting started guide for python 3 
> page needs to change to reflect this fact that memcache etc. will work only 
> thru dev_appserver - at least as of now.
> 
> Regards
> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:43:09 AM UTC+5:30 Sajal Gupta wrote:
> 
> I am using Flask's server as follows:
> 
> if __name__ == '__main__':
> # # This is used when running locally only. When deploying to Google App
> # # Engine, a webserver process such as Gunicorn will serve the app. You
> # # can configure startup instructions by adding `entrypoint` to app.yaml.
> app.run(host='127.0.0.1', port=8080, debug=True)
> 
> And in Pycharm, have set up environment parameter as follows:
> FLASK_ENV=development
> 
> Also tried by not having this variable but end result is still the same.
> 
> dev_appserver doesn't seem to work anyway - gives an assertion error (expects 
> python 2, I believe) while my project is Python 3 - in fact trying to migrate 
> from 2 to 3.
> 
> Happy to share any additional information which can help debug this.
> 
> Regards
> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 9:51:42 PM UTC+5:30 matthe...@google.com <> 
> wrote:
> Hi Sajal,
> Are you using dev_appserver to run locally, or are you using some other type 
> of toolset (e.g., the Flask dev server)?
> 
> Best,
> Matt
> 
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 6:05 AM Sajal Gupta <sa...@visiblebox.com <>> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I was trying to run the now bundled memcache service on localhost 
> (python3/flask) but got an error: Attempted RPC call without active security 
> ticket.
> 
> Could you shed some light on this and if localhost is not supported as of now 
> and if so, by when will this support be available.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Sajal
> 
> 
> On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 8:17:52 PM UTC+5:30 Wesley C (Google) wrote:
> App Engine and Google Cloud serverless users:
> 
> The App Engine <http://cloud.google.com/appengine> team at Google Cloud 
> <http://cloud.google.com/> had a flurry of announcements and product updates 
> over the past few months. In case you missed them, we've summarized them here 
> with relevant links.
> 
> New features to better secure your Google App Engine apps 
> <https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/serverless/app-engine-egress-controls-and-user-managed-service-accounts>
>  (Aug 2021) —  Introducing a pair of networking and security features:
> Egress Controls for Serverless VPC Access 
> <https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/python3/connecting-vpc#manage>
>  — consistent app (static) outbound IP address
> User-managed service accounts 
> <https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/python3/user-managed-service-accounts>
>  — custom service accounts to restrict apps to only the permissions 
> necessary, following the best practice of "least privileges"
> Exploring serverless with a nebulous app 
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> Cloud Run without any code changes, and show how to access Cloud APIs from 
> serverless
> Extending support for App Engine bundled services 
> <https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/serverless/support-for-app-engine-services-in-second-generation-runtimes>
>  (Sep 2021) — Legacy App Engine APIs/bundled services, e.g., Memcache 
> <https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/java/memcache>, Datastore 
> <https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/java/datastore>, etc., were 
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> not because they were deprecated). Many matured into standalone products, 
> e.g., Cloud Memorystore <http://cloud.google.com/memorystore>, Cloud 
> Datastore <http://cloud.google.com/datastore>, etc., respectively anyway. To 
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> etc.), we've added many of these bundled services "back" to the latest App 
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>  
> Cloud NDB to Cloud Datastore 
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> App Engine to Cloud Run (with Docker 
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>  or without Docker using Cloud Buildpacks 
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> While we are working hard to improve your App Engine experience, recognize 
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>  
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> App Engine or Cloud Functions, consider Cloud Run <http://cloud.run/>.
> 
> Both Cloud Functions and Cloud Run have similar execution profiles, are 
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