Wow. Way to bitter for me. I cower back to my shell, licking my wounds and
healing a crushed soul.

To paraphrase and truncate Tzu (Lao not Lieh) "accept
disgrace willingly, accept being unimportant, humbly surrender"


On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Patrick Shanahan <[email protected]>wrote:

> * Brian Johnson <[email protected]> [02-25-11 16:10]:
> > Any opinions here might be taken a little more seriously if we dropped
> > the infantile Windoz or attacking Microsoft and their system builders OS
> > bundling. I suspect Microsoft has covered this with their 73 trade
> > attorneys. Sure their software sales
> > are aggressive, some say predatory but vendors are not forced to bundle
> > Windows, they could bundle with Linux but that has never
> > really materialized in any meaningful way.
> >
> > After years with Windows I find myself using Linux more often, it suits
> me
> > fine. My parents bought and it was bundled with Windows and thats good
> for
> > them.My sister bought a new notebook and it was bundled with Windows,
> great
> > for her.
> >
> > Until vendors are pressed to offer PC's bundled with Linux, it will
> remain a
> > 3rd tier OS (going by numbers). Actually before Linux pre-installed
> > it would be nice to see hardware vendors offering more Linux support.
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Patrick Shanahan <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> > > * Edward Comer <[email protected]> [02-25-11 13:09]:
> > > > No, Windows is FREE as far as the consumer is concerned. Joe consumer
> > > goes
> > > > to the local big-box store and buys a computer. It comes with
> Windows,
> > > costs
> > > > the consumer no extra money, time or energy, so to him/her it is the
> same
> > > as
> > > > free. For joe consumer obtaining a computer without Windows already
> > > > installed is very difficult and usually costs more (look at Dell's
> Linux
> > > > pricing). All that joe consumer wants is a computer that will do what
> > > they
> > > > want, namely browse the web, send/receive email and write a very word
> > > > processing documents. They don't care about the OS - they just want
> to
> > > use
> > > > the tool. To the consumer Windows IS free because to not have it is
> > > > difficult and, in their mind, certainly not worth it. Remember, the
> vast
> > > > majority of consumers do NOT subscribe to this email list because
> they
> > > are
> > > > not like you and me - what comes from the store is their only option
> or
> > > at
> > > > least the only option that they care about.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Patrick Shanahan <
> [email protected]
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > ...
> > > > > Ah, "free operating system (Windows)"
> > > > >  Definitely NOT free
> > > > >  Debatable "operating system"
> > > > >
> > > > > "Free photo management software"
> > > > >  Merely included in the camera purchase price.  Try getting it w/o
> > > > >  purchasing a camera
> > > > >
> > > > > "Free product 'Windows Photo Gallery'"
> > > > >  Another product merely included in the *original* purchase price.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your John Doe consumer just wants to spend money....
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > But you are now speaking of *perception*, not reality.  When you make
> > > these generality statements, it is necessary that they be put into
> proper
> > > context.
> > >
> > > There is NO free lunch and windoz is *definitely* NOT free any more
> than
> > > the tank of gasolene the auto dealer may *give* you when you purchase a
> > > new automobile.  It wasn't free!
> > >
> > > It is also a fact that the windoz version *included* in the sale of
> most
> > > computers is by law a refundable quantity and NOT a condition of
> purchase
> > > even thou it is not publicized and not explained at sale and *should*
> be
> > > considered a fraudulent action.
> > >
> > > Try using windoz on a new computer w/o agreeing to an unreadable ula.
> > > --
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>
> Who really cares whether opinions/facts are taken seriously and is your
> childish attempt at labeling actions any different than a widespread
> recognition of a slang representation of a monopolistic enterprise?  Are
> you *really* sure they only have 73 trade attorneys?
>
> Their software sales are not only aggressive, they are repressive and
> criminal.  Vendors/builders *are* forced via pricing to use *only* windows
> and no other operating system.  And *most* hardware vendors are not going
> to offer Linux support for the same reason there will be no Linux based
> version of picasa.
>
> ps:  Why do you answer questions before they are asked?  Is it to be able
> to include more quoted text?
>
> Will you graduate High School soon?
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