> > > - Also, someone who would be willing to go through the current demos > and improve them/flag developers if they are missing and/or just suck. > > I forgot to mention that all demos must still only contain client side code, as the plan is to make it as automatic a process as possible, and trying to deploy to n python back-ends as an automated process is not a challenge I want to take on!
> > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Arthur Kalmenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> >> OK that makes sense. Maybe we need a project that's in between >> incubator and GWT, something that has regular releases and uses >> polished content from the incubator but content that's not so polished >> that it would go into GWT. While what's in the incubator is a work in >> progress, it is still a) much faster then what the other libraries >> offer, b) mostly cleaner and better written then the other libraries, >> c) gives people an idea of where GWT is headed. >> >> While making custom widgets is easy in GWT, there is a lot of overlap >> in what people need and there is usually a rich suite of widgets that >> people would like out of the box. It's not very easy to pick up GWT >> and dive in making great and interactive apps. There's a lot of group >> work that needs to be done to build rich widgets. It seems a waste >> that this group work is done on every GWT project by all the various >> organizations that use GWT. I know that the GWT team said GWT was >> meant to be pretty low level and they wanted the community to build on >> top of that, but it seems that the community is not delivering. I know >> Bruce mentioned that better widgets are on the agenda, so I don't >> know.... >> >> Regards, >> Arthur Kalmenson >> >> On Oct 10, 4:36 pm, "Isaac Truett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > We don't want people to be afraid of the Incubator, but we do want them >> to >> > be cautious. It isn't a library per se, but a workshop for ideas. Things >> in >> > the Incubator may be half finished or in the middle of refurbishing at >> any >> > given time. It's an environment where you may have to get your hands >> dirty. >> > It's not something that all GWT users will have the patience or risk >> > tolerance for. >> > Improving the contents of the Incubator is, of course, important. That's >> > what it's there for. But I would expect that as things are "cleaned up" >> > they'll be promoted to the main GWT project or spun off into separate >> > libraries. What's left in the Incubator will always be >> works-in-progress. >> > >> > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Arthur Kalmenson < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hello everyone, >> > >> > > There was some discussion on the IRC channel about this, and I figured >> > > I'd put it up for everyone here. >> > >> > > I think that the incubator has a lot of useful things (FooBundle, >> > > CssResource, DatePicker), a lot of great ideas (Declarative UI) and >> > > some not so great things (PagingScrollTable). The incubator has a lot >> > > of potential, it just needs some polish and promotion. I think it >> > > needs the following: >> > >> > > 1. Better and nicer examples of widgets and use of some nice CSS (just >> > > use one of the GWT themes). >> > > 2. Clean up the existing widgets and make them easier to use. >> > > 3. A showcase to show off all these widgets and make them accessible >> > > like the main GWT showcase. >> > > 4. Promoting incubator as a great resource on the regular GWT group >> > > and on the main GWT site. >> > >> > > As it stands right now, few people know about the incubator and those >> > > that do are usually scared away. Most people end up going to widget >> > > libraries like ExtGWT and others. Just about every widget library I've >> > > seen is poorly done and ends up giving GWT a really bad name (ExtGWT >> > > especially). I think the incubator can offer a much better and cleaner >> > > widget library and components, but it needs to be cleaned up and >> > > promoted so more people contribute and give feedback. >> > >> > > What do you think? >> > >> > > Regards, >> > > Arthur Kalmenson >> >> >> > > > -- > "There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand > binary, and those who don't" > -- "There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't" --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit-Contributors -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
