I agree with Thomas and Daniel that it's good to avoid putting more "official" work into the generators, and encouraging people to move off.
But I think I agree more with Colin and Jens that, one way or another, people are using generators today, and will be using them for awhile (e.g. if they purposefully choose to stay on a GWT 2.8-based lineage), and it seems unfair to deny them improvements that they themselves want to make to the generators. So, if Colin has a few patches waiting in the wings, or if people wander in with "hey, I made this incremental improvement to a generator", it seems "un-open source" to say "sorry, you should be doing something else". I base my opinion mostly on the healthiest open source project I've ever seen: Apache Spark, where (at least in the early days), the committers were extremely wiling to accept patches about whatever itch you wanted to scratch (although still with tests/quality/etc.). (Granted, they were technically trying to win political points by "having as many contributors as Hadoop", but even if that was their core goal, the side affect of a healthy community was pretty nice.) So, that's my only "post every 6 months" $0.02: if people have itches with the current generators, let them scratch it. That is what open source is about, IMO. - Stephen On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 3:40 PM Paul Stockley <pstockl...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't think migrating away from Generators to APT means you are forced > to move off 2.8. In fact, I was hoping to move incrementally as each > subsystem is migrated to become APT based. Then in the future, our code > base would be close to moving to J2CL. In a couple of months or so I was > planning on starting some prototyping, probably around replacing UiBinder > and Resources. > > > On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 6:13:17 AM UTC-4, Daniel Kurka wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> thanks for Colin for writing this up. >> To me this discussion is not so much about the particular feature >> (enhancing generators), but rather about us making smart choices. >> We are already struggling to get 2.8 out the door (and making sure it >> will work with the next version of Guava). So I'd rather be lighten the >> work load and remove things that do not need to be done >> I also feel that further enhancing generators dilutes the message we have >> been giving for the past year: *Do not use generators anymore, use APTs.* >> >> I am also worried about possible problems that we will uncover once we >> allow these things to go into generators. >> With the exception of GWT RPC all generators should be easily portable to >> an APT. I would love to see work being put into that direction rather than >> updating a system we are all not happy with. >> >> -Daniel >> >> >> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 11:59 AM Jens <jens.ne...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>> >>>> - add new features to existing generators / linkers >>>> >>>> >>> I think to some extend some new features should also be fine if they are >>> related to Java 8. For example I could see GWT-RPC being improved to better >>> support lambda/method references in the future. >>> >>> -- J. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "GWT Contributors" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to google-web-toolkit-contributors+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> . >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-web-toolkit-contributors/1898a4b0-3eff-4e53-8aba-19e1851a646f%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-web-toolkit-contributors/1898a4b0-3eff-4e53-8aba-19e1851a646f%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "GWT Contributors" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to google-web-toolkit-contributors+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-web-toolkit-contributors/ff572616-6851-464d-8b9c-4bfa8df031e7%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-web-toolkit-contributors/ff572616-6851-464d-8b9c-4bfa8df031e7%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GWT Contributors" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-web-toolkit-contributors+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-web-toolkit-contributors/CANnRKuVfxba0RM1b%3DPdGWRd9WBZF2e4h2hrXmJLTbzRo-XpmyA%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
