External "device"‽ Sounds strange to me (as a non-native English speaker at
least)
On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 5:50:27 PM UTC+2, Brandon Donnelson wrote:
>
> I've made some adjustments. This time I put numbers on each label for
> referencing if needed. Do you think I should change it further?
>
>
> On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 8:04:47 AM UTC-7, Brandon Donnelson wrote:
>>
>> I don't have lots of control over order. I have control grouping them and
>> then they sort alphabetically.
>>
>> Legacy makes more sense now, you're right. I like it better than classic.
>>
>> I like where you're going with external server and embedded server.
>> That's something I've been trying to make a distinction with and makes
>> sense. You're refinements look to have a better distinction.
>>
>> I'll revise it some more and see if I can get closer.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 12:33:57 AM UTC-7, Thomas Broyer wrote:
>>>
>>> May I suggest "GWT Development Mode" and "GWT Legacy Development Mode"?
>>> Maybe "GWT Development Mode with external server" and "GWT Development
>>> Mode with embedded server"?
>>> IMO, making the distinction between "classic devmode" and "super
>>> devmode" was OK last year and before; but since 2.7 (released more than 1
>>> year and a half ago already!) "sdm" is the default and it makes no sense to
>>> talk about "classic" devmode for something that's basically dead now (only
>>> supported in IE, where IE11 already supports source maps; and SDM works
>>> back to IE8, without sourcemaps then, but you can still use -style PRETTY
>>> in SDM in 2.8 –was the default in 2.7 IIRC– to get something readable).
>>>
>>> It's 2016, we're about to release GWT 2.8, GWT 2.7 which brought SDM on
>>> by default was released in early 2015, I think it's time we call SDM simply
>>> "GWT Development Mode". You can stick a "(SDM)" in there if you want ("GWT
>>> Development Mode (SDM)") but I don't think it's even needed.
>>> As for the "with Jetty", I don't think it's important that it's Jetty;
>>> it could be Tomcat or Undertow it wouldn't change much things. It's more
>>> important that it's an embedded server vs. and external server.
>>> If you want to make it extra obvious that "with external server" is
>>> CodeServer and not just "DevMode with -noserver", then stick a
>>> "(CodeServer)" suffix: "GWT Development Mode with external server
>>> (CodeServer)".
>>>
>>> WDYT?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 11:22:44 PM UTC+2, Ignacio Baca
>>> Moreno-Torres wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This is how I think that newbies will understand it easier... I suppose
>>>> the change is too big, but maybe some part might be interesting. Any way
>>>> current state is pretty good! good work. I have re-ordered, leaving the
>>>> classic devmode the last one.
>>>> 1. GWT Super DevMode - a client side GWT CodeServer (a.k.a. super
>>>> devmode)
>>>> 2. GWT Super DevMode and Jetty - a server side using Jetty and client
>>>> side using GWT Script CodeServer (a.k.a. super devmode)
>>>> 3. GWT Classic DevMode and Jetty - a server side using Jetty and client
>>>> side using GWT Java CodeServer (a.k.a. classic devmode)
>>>>
>>>> This might not be technically correct, but I think that the codeserver
>>>> and super devmode is practically the same (at least codeserver is implicit
>>>> in super devmode), and is confusing for users. Even better, if you change
>>>> "Classic" to "Java" and "Super" to "Script" is even easier to understand,
>>>> but I suppose is not a good idea because Super DevMode is everywhere.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 7:17 PM Brandon Donnelson <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What do you think of the labels for the GWT Eclipse Plugin (V3)
>>>>> Shortcuts and Launchers?
>>>>>
>>>>> FYI... I'm on track to releasing the EA soon and aim to reach beta
>>>>> before GWTCon. GPE (and the gpe-fork) is planning to be deprecated in the
>>>>> 4th quarter.
>>>>>
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