+1 drop IE 11 increases the effort to include new stuff. IE +11 can still use GWT 2.9.0
On Thu, 30 Sept 2021 at 16:55, Vegegoku <[email protected]> wrote: > I vote to even drop support for IE11. > > On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 7:49:56 PM UTC+3 [email protected] > wrote: > >> I've just filed https://github.com/gwtproject/gwt/issues/9739, where a >> workaround exists in java.util.Date that nearly doubles the time it takes >> to parse date strings and build date objects. This workaround exists for >> IE8 and IE9, as all more recent browsers implement the same behavior as we >> already would expect. Dropping support for those two browsers would >> simplify the code required here >> >> From the age of this thread and the discussion so far, it sounds like >> there is interest in keeping IE11 still, but no one has spoke up about IE10 >> or below. >> >> Additionally, java.util.Random emulation was changed to require >> Date.now(), which isn't available in IE8, so neither GWT 2.8.2 nor GWT >> 2.9.0 are apparently compatible with IE8 anyway, at least in this small >> way. This should give us some confidence (along with the lack of opposition >> in this thread) that at least IE8 is definitely safe to drop. >> >> So, is there any objection at this time to dropping what remains of IE8, >> IE9, and IE10 support from GWT? Then, we can reevaluate IE11 at some later >> date, for GWT itself? Various migrated GWT modules have focused their >> efforts on well-supported browsers, and are likely to only support IE11 by >> accident anyway. >> >> On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 1:20:02 AM UTC-6 stuckagain wrote: >> >>> We still need IE11 support in the banking sector. We still have a >>> majority of customers that use IE11 due to technical reasons (plugins >>> needed for accessing secure token don’t install properly in Chrome without >>> internet access amongst others). >>> >>> What do you mean with “next version of GWT” if that is 3.x then I don’t >>> care at this point. We have been waiting for that release for a few years >>> now. But 2.x releases should not drop IE11 support it is supposed to be a >>> long-term supported version. >>> On 12 Mar 2021, 07:54 +0100, [email protected] < >>> [email protected]>, wrote: >>> >>> Hi all! >>> >>> I think IE11 support should be dropped soon if it blocks (or makes it >>> difficult) to implement new features in the next version of GWT. >>> I understand, that there are enterprises who still use IE11 internally, >>> but developers who service such enterprises should use the current version >>> of GWT, which is not going away. Nobody is forced to upgrade to the next >>> version of GWT. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Berni >>> >>> [email protected] schrieb am Donnerstag, 11. März 2021 um 22:26:21 >>> UTC+1: >>> >>>> IE 11 is still widely used inside corporations, because it is the only >>>> browser that supports Java applets, and applications such as Oracle >>>> e-Business Suite still use applets extensively (for Oracle forms). While >>>> that segment does not move very fast, it does not mean other unrelated >>>> groups within the same corporation are not updating GWT regularly. It is >>>> hard to generalize In a multinational company with tens of thousands of >>>> employees. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Tony >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 9:49 AM Jens <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dropping IE 8-10 shouldn't really hurt. Companies that require it are >>>>> probably not upgrading GWT in a fast pace anyways. >>>>> >>>>> However I wouldn't drop IE 11 anytime soon. IE 11 itself is tied to >>>>> the lifecycle of Microsoft's operating systems, which means for Windows 10 >>>>> it is supported until 2025 (for now). So just because MS and Google drop >>>>> support for IE 11 in some/all of their products, the browser itself is >>>>> still generally supported by MS. So we should think twice before removing >>>>> IE 11 from a library such as GWT, even if it means to decline/revert >>>>> certain commits if they break IE 11. From own experience I have usually >>>>> seen something around 8% of IE 11 usage in GWT based apps. >>>>> >>>>> However I am pretty sure more and more companies will announce >>>>> dropping IE 11 this year or next year. With MS and Google starting, this >>>>> could easily have a domino effect. However GWT also also strongly used >>>>> internally inside companies so it might not have that much of an effect in >>>>> that area. >>>>> >>>>> If we ditch IE 8-10 and only leaving gecko1_8 and safari, can't we >>>>> kill them both as well and put them together? Are there so many >>>>> differences >>>>> in code between both? From my work migrating GWT code to >>>>> elemental2/JsInterop I had the feeling that only some minor stuff is >>>>> different between both. 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