this thread makes me laugh :)

I will continue to :

-use pyjamas only in bed
-use GWT for building my sizzling new web app
-use J2SE to write desktop applications

but i'm curious to see where you guys head with this :)  Limiting your
desktop application to run on a JRE equivalent to that which is
emulated by the GWT will by quite funny.  Let's do the time warp baby



On Oct 26, 10:29 pm, "L Frohman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We have a similar requirement, to have part of our GWT app also run
> standalone
> on someone's desktop. We haven't done anything yet, except for designing our
> app using MVC. We have an GWT view and a batch testing view and will add
> other views later.
> I saw some posts on PureMVC and PureMVC4GWT (or something like that)
> but I haven't had time to look into them.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "lkcl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 12:12 PM
> To: "Google Web Toolkit" <Google-Web-Toolkit@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Suggestion: GWT port to Desktop
>
>
>
> > On Oct 26, 4:18 am, GWBasic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I don't see the point.  GWT is designed to run in a browser;
>
> > it's designed to run in a browser - and with a little bit of work,
> > can be turned into a _desktop_ widget-set with an *identical*
> > interface.
>
> >> if you
> >> want to do a true desktop application, there are plenty of desktop
> >> development systems that are much better.
>
> > do such desktop development systems also allow you to compile the
> > same source code into javascript - unmodified - for running the same
> > application - unmodified - in all major web browsers?
>
> >>  C#, Java, Objective C...
> >> They're a dime a dozen.
>
> > i repeat: do these dime-a-dozen [desktop] development systems also
> > allow the same apps to run in web browsers, unmodified?
>
> >> If all you're looking to do is get rid of the browser chrome and give
> >> a GWT application full-control of the window,
>
> > no.  i'm not looking to _get rid_ of the browser, i'm looking to make
> > the GWT widget API a cross-browser AND cross-desktop AND cross-widget
> > set framework.
>
> >> it's trivial to write a
> >> C# (Windows) and Objective C (Mac) application that will do that.
> >> Both C# and Objective C have browser widgets.
>
> >>  You can make the
> >> browser widget fill up the window and then programmatically direct it
> >> to a URL.  If you're ambitious, you can capture new window events, add
> >> drop-down menus, ect.
>
> > will the application so developed work on linux, MacOSX, windows,
> > embedded ARM-based smartphones, google android, solaris and freebsd?
>
> >> Something to consider is that all of GWT's I/O needs to go to a web
> >> server.
>
> > yes.
>
> >> If you're trying to use GWT for something that will save
> >> files to disk, use a local database, burn CDs, ect, you'll need to use
> >> an embedded web server.  This is much more complicated then using a
> >> true desktop development environment.
>
> > not really, although it is an extremely good point.
>
> > however, you _should_ be designing your app around an MVC concept of
> > some kind _anyway_.
>
> > installing a mini web server on loopback, and using JSONRPC or other
> > XMLHTTPRequest-based communications mechanism is a tiny price to pay
> > for being able to have your app run - unmodified - on every major web
> > browser _and_ on every major desktop platform and several embedded
> > ones, too [that can handle java and can handle webkit].
>
> > l.
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