GWT is not designed to be a UI Framework, rather its a base for everything else. And this is good so. We're using ExtGWT as a UI Framework, we kicked SmartGWT because of their JS wraps (not a native GWT implementation)
On 10 Feb., 11:11, jaga <j.annes...@gmail.com> wrote: > One problem with GWT is it's lack of styling. The default style is "un- > styled" and doesn't work for our application. SmartGWT on the other- > hand provides an attractive uniform styling. The blocker for me is > that now you are using another 3rd party library: you have to learn > its ways, integrate with your existing framework, and deal with its > bugs and idiosyncrasies. > > On Feb 10, 7:30 am, Nagin Kothari <naginkoth...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sanjiv, > > > I know I am reopening this thread, not to criticise Smart GWT, but want to > > give some feedback. > > > First of all let me acknowledge that it is very good library with lot of > > cool and fantastic features. I experimented with it and liked it and > > planning to use it in one of my project.But I have some doubts and questions > > , which you I thought you will be best person to answer . Hence this mail. > > > 1. I am using GWT and want to use some Smart GWT widgets in that > > application.But it looks like I have to include lot of Smart client JS file > > which size is about 2MB. Client need to download all these JS libs above our > > GWT compiled script. this become very huge download for client, Even I want > > to use Smart GWT's grid , I realized that I have to include almost > > everything except few small smart-client JS.So my question is why is so and > > what is work around for it? > > > 2.Second, smart-client scripts are not in compressed format (like GWT is). > > it is like GWT pretty format. If it is compressed then size of all script > > files will be reduced. > > > 3. My third question is - Why smart GWT is not written in GWT so that it can > > take advantage of GWT's optimised java script compiler.Smart GWT widget the > > can be extended by user to customize it. Right now Smart GWT widgets are > > just black box for developer. > > > Theses are few question I had in mind., Over all features provided by smart > > GWT are great. > > > Thank and regards, > > > Nagin Kothari > > > On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Sanjiv Jivan <sanjiv.ji...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Jaroslav, > > > If you're happy with GWT that’s great but please do not make such vague > > > and > > > baseless claims about Smart GWT. Legitimate bugs reported are fixed really > > > quickly and existing users can attest to this. Smart GWT currently has > > > around 42 open defects with a majority of them being low priority, and 16 > > > enhancement requests (http://code.google.com/p/smartgwt/issues/list). > > > Considering the depth and breadth of features provided by the framework > > > this > > > is a pretty low number of defects. > > > > 3 of the 7 issues that you filed were invalid, and 2 defects that were > > > fixed and the remaining 2 were marked WontFix since they were trivial > > > pieces > > > of functionality that the user could easily implement. > > > >http://code.google.com/p/smartgwt/issues/list?can=1&q=reporter:jarosl... > > > > <http://code.google.com/p/smartgwt/issues/list?can=1&q=reporter:jarosl...>And > > > when you were advised how to implement a warning dialog before record > > > deletion on this issue that you filed ( > > >http://code.google.com/p/smartgwt/issues/detail?id=325), you responded by > > > "you are sad". Nice way to show your appreciation when using a free > > > product. > > > > Sanjiv > > > > 2010/12/3 Jaroslav Záruba <jaroslav.zar...@gmail.com> > > > > ...until you run into some SmartGWT magic - like widgets not working > > >> without otherwise completely useless 'final' (have fun trying figure > > >> that out), newly spanned records not appearing in tree, styles not > > >> getting applied until mouseover, etc. > > >> What looks like polished set of awesome widgets might turn into > > >> nightmare which makes you throwing your deadlines out of the window. > > > >> (Like I said before, this particular experience with SmartGWT is one > > >> year old.) > > > >> With GWT the start might be slower but you can predict the deadlines + > > >> you're not working with 'black box'. > > > >> On 3 pro, 00:00, ckendrick <charles.kendr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > Sorry that's quite absurd: SmartGWT is often introduced to solve > > >> > performance problems, and it solves them. > > > >> > SmartGWT is intentionally designed to have a one-time-ever download of > > >> > a feature rich runtime in exchange for reducing subsequent server > > >> > requests. For example, Adaptive Filtering greatly reduces the > > >> > costliest types of database hits: > > > >>http://www.smartclient.com/smartgwt/showcase/#grid_adaptive_filter_fe... > > > >> > .. and allows you to introduce an extremely powerful data highlighting > > >> > system with no server load at all: > > > >> > http://blog.isomorphic.com/?p=234 > > > >> > If your application is the kind we target - complex enterprise > > >> > applications which are used repeatedly and for significant lengths of > > >> > time - this provides a gigantic performance boost, and once-ever > > >> > download of cachable JavaScript files is a negligible factor. > > > >> > Look at a deployed SmartGWT application and you've got users humming > > >> > along, ripping through the interface and nothing being downloaded > > >> > anymore because it's all cached. And everyone is getting fast > > >> > responses from the database because the Smart GWT framework is > > >> > minimizing database load. > > > >> > The larger your application becomes, the more these benefits accrue. > > >> > And, by the time you've built an application with comparable > > >> > functionality with core GWT or another GWT-based framework, you're > > >> > going to be downloading the same size runtime as SmartGWT anyway. > > > >> > On Dec 1, 1:44 pm, aarnott <andrew.wj.arn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > > I've found Smart GWT to have rather poor performance and it comes at > > >> > > the added cost of massive javascript libraries (even when they are > > >> > > gzipped). If you are anything like me, you will probably find that > > >> > > you > > >> > > lose time in the long run by going with Smart GWT because you will > > >> > > want to get rid of it later to boost performance. > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > >> "Google Web Toolkit" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > >>http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "Google Web Toolkit" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. 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