For those of you who have some computer networking background. The story of
TCP/IP vs. ATM should bring some insight.

ATM was the perfect protocol for Internet transmission - suited for voice,
data, video with least overhead
TCP/IP has higher overhead mostly suited for data.

Ultimately TCP/IP killed ATM - know why? simplicty. Go figure.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Nathan <[email protected]> wrote:

> This snip from David's earlier post I think sums it up for a lot of us
> or me at least, "Translation between the two standards is highly
> desirable at this
> early stage of health data exchange using XML."
>
> The CCR vs CCD battle is not my battle. I have no doubt there are a
> lot of issues within that are important and need to be figured out. As
> expressed before, in the meantime I want to be able to move forward
> confident that the data that is created or saved doesn't become an
> unexchangable island. From a small amount of investigation, the
> translation aspect seems like it can be overcome its just really
> expensive to do right now. I've received quotes somewhere near $10000
> per channel.  I just want to be able to exchange health information
> (for our purposes mostly summary information) effectively and provide
> it back to consumers in an easily digested form. Oh, and I would also
> like to be able to certify my product...it seems as though many of the
> opportunities to seek federal funding depends on it.
>
> Michael and David wrote: "[Michael] They idea that I would have to get
> my details and type them in is a non-starter. We need a simple method
> that is easy to implement that enables a physician to upload a partial
> record, like 'todays encounter". "[David] I am very much thinking
> about the patient, as well as about the doctor.  The patient needs his
> or her health information in summary file format, and his/her personal
> physician is the ideal individual to provide that under many
> circumstances."
>
> Nathan: We are piloting a web portal that would allow a doctor or care
> giver to do just that. They can enter information either driven by
> dropdowns supported by a medical language database of their choice or
> through open text. They post the summary information to their local
> database and the record is synchronized with Google Health. Their data
> is held in the local database and the consumer gets the summary of
> what took place in their PHR. We actually came at this from the other
> end. We are more focused on providing an easy interface for less
> technology-oriented consumers to digest the health information
> provided by a PHR such as Google Health, but needed an easy and cheap
> way for the care providers within the community clinics to get
> information into the patient record.
>
> Michael, thanks for sharing the work you are doing it is very
> innovative. In regards to your slide 21 I can't tell whether you are
> stuck in getting your xml data into MySQL or are you stuck getting
> your data from MySQL into Google Health?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Nathan Botts
> HealthATM, Inc.
>
> On Nov 12, 5:04 am, Steven Waldren <[email protected]> wrote:
> > A CDA of a transcriped document (as Juggy mentioned there are
> > millions) is only marginally more valuable than a fax.
> >
> > Regarding CDA/RIM is easy, how long did it take your Java SIG to write
> > the Java code to work with CDAs? (including learning the RIM, V3, CDA,
> > and all templates)
> >
> > Best,
> > Steven
> > P.S.  How many people are actually producing and consuming level 3 CDAs?
> > --
> > Steven E. Waldren, MD MS
> > Director, Center for Health-IT
> > American Academy of Family Physicians
> > 11400 Tomahawk Creek Parkway
> > Leawood, KS 66211
> > Email:  [email protected]
> > Office: 1-800-274-AAFP
> >                 (913)906-6000 x4100
> > Cell:   (913)205-9838
> > Skype:  steven.waldrenhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenwaldren
>  >
> > On Nov 12, 2009, at 12:24 AM, Gunther Schadow wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Talking about this bank record analogy, I don't need excel
> > > either, just fax me my account statement.
>
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