Thank you David and I will certainly look into the Clinical Groupware
Collaborative. From my brief perusal it seems as though we could learn
a lot from just the initial list of those participating in the working
group. I will see if we can get involved.

Relatedly, not sure if anyone in this conversation will be attending
AMIA this week in San Francisco (November 14-18), but we will be
presenting our current model on Monday night during the poster session
and invite anyone to stop by. It would be great to get feedback on
what we are piloting.

Best regards,

Nathan Botts
HealthATM, Inc.

On Nov 12, 7:32 am, David Kibbe <[email protected]> wrote:
> Nathan:  Your work is very exciting, and just the kind of thing that  
> should be "plug-and-play" with other apps on the Google Health  
> platform.  Bravo!
> Have you considered joining the Clinical Groupware Collaborative?  I  
> think you'd find a lot of like-minded people there working on similar  
> projects and looking to collaborate.
> Kind regards, DCK
>
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> On Nov 12, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Nathan wrote:
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>
>
> > This snip from David's earlier post I think sums it up for a lot of us
> > or me at least, "Translation between the two standards is highly
> > desirable at this
> > early stage of health data exchange using XML."
>
> > The CCR vs CCD battle is not my battle. I have no doubt there are a
> > lot of issues within that are important and need to be figured out. As
> > expressed before, in the meantime I want to be able to move forward
> > confident that the data that is created or saved doesn't become an
> > unexchangable island. From a small amount of investigation, the
> > translation aspect seems like it can be overcome its just really
> > expensive to do right now. I've received quotes somewhere near $10000
> > per channel.  I just want to be able to exchange health information
> > (for our purposes mostly summary information) effectively and provide
> > it back to consumers in an easily digested form. Oh, and I would also
> > like to be able to certify my product...it seems as though many of the
> > opportunities to seek federal funding depends on it.
>
> > Michael and David wrote: "[Michael] They idea that I would have to get
> > my details and type them in is a non-starter. We need a simple method
> > that is easy to implement that enables a physician to upload a partial
> > record, like 'todays encounter". "[David] I am very much thinking
> > about the patient, as well as about the doctor.  The patient needs his
> > or her health information in summary file format, and his/her personal
> > physician is the ideal individual to provide that under many
> > circumstances."
>
> > Nathan: We are piloting a web portal that would allow a doctor or care
> > giver to do just that. They can enter information either driven by
> > dropdowns supported by a medical language database of their choice or
> > through open text. They post the summary information to their local
> > database and the record is synchronized with Google Health. Their data
> > is held in the local database and the consumer gets the summary of
> > what took place in their PHR. We actually came at this from the other
> > end. We are more focused on providing an easy interface for less
> > technology-oriented consumers to digest the health information
> > provided by a PHR such as Google Health, but needed an easy and cheap
> > way for the care providers within the community clinics to get
> > information into the patient record.
>
> > Michael, thanks for sharing the work you are doing it is very
> > innovative. In regards to your slide 21 I can't tell whether you are
> > stuck in getting your xml data into MySQL or are you stuck getting
> > your data from MySQL into Google Health?
>
> > Best regards,
>
> > Nathan Botts
> > HealthATM, Inc.
>
> > On Nov 12, 5:04 am, Steven Waldren <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> A CDA of a transcriped document (as Juggy mentioned there are
> >> millions) is only marginally more valuable than a fax.
>
> >> Regarding CDA/RIM is easy, how long did it take your Java SIG to  
> >> write
> >> the Java code to work with CDAs? (including learning the RIM, V3,  
> >> CDA,
> >> and all templates)
>
> >> Best,
> >> Steven
> >> P.S.  How many people are actually producing and consuming level 3  
> >> CDAs?
> >> --
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> >> American Academy of Family Physicians
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> >> On Nov 12, 2009, at 12:24 AM, Gunther Schadow wrote:
>
> >>> Talking about this bank record analogy, I don't need excel
> >>> either, just fax me my account statement.
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