HI Chris,

Thanks for sending out up this discussion thread.
I had a lot of help from you and the others to help drive Gora moving
forward as incubator project =)

I really appreciate the confidence you have in me for the VP position,
but I will cast my Vote for Lewis or Enis instead.
I'd love to remain ACTIVE as PMC and contributing more in Gora but
more as individual contributor.
Definitely love to help with management duties such as being RM but
probably wont have time to execute role as VP for Gora.

As for graduation, I'd love to see us deliver one more release, which
is 0.2, to hopefully convince the IPMC that we are ready to graduate.

- Henry


On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hey Lewis,
>
> Thanks for getting this conversation started.
>
> After Sam's email on general@ it also got me thinking about Gora.
> IMHO, I think Gora has set out what it accomplished to do as far
> as what the Incubator can give it.
>
> 1. We brought the project from outside of Apache and from Github to
> the ASF infrastructure (got IP signoff, recorded on file with the ASF
> secretary, etc.)
>
> 2. We vetted all of the license issues.
>
> 3. We made > 1 release (0.1-incubating by Henry, and 0.1.1-incubating
> by me)
>
> 4. We've attracted new committers beyond the original proposal (Ioannis,
> Lewis)
>
> I'm going to use this as an opportunity as Gora's champion to put the 
> following
> resolution for the Board for discussion by the community. I'm going to suggest
> 3 candidates for the chair position, for several reasons: Enis, Henry, or 
> Lewis.
>
> Enis has been around in Gora since the beginning and he, Dogacan, and
> Julien were its original progenitors at Github. Enis has always participated 
> in
> VOTEs, discussion on the mailing list, and with patches/etc., for the website
> and Gora's core. Henry stepped up the most in my mind at the beginning
> of the project, helping to file JIRA issues, learn a code base in large part
> that he had never seen before, and he pushed hard to get Gora's first release
> out the door. Lewis, even before he was a committer on Gora and PPMC member,
> was a sweeping force of progress, and change (the positive kind!) He is a 
> fantastic
> and prolific ASF committer and PMC member on Nutch and has been really
> getting Gora back on track.
>
> So, I'll leave this thread up for a week and I'd like Enis, Henry and Lewis to
> state whether or not they would like to be a candidate for VP, Gora, should
> the board approve the resolution that we will VOTE on and put before them,
> hopefully in time for the December board meeting. I'll call an official VOTE
> next week on the resolution below.
>
> In the meanwhile, I'll head over and update our Gora Incubator project page,
> and bring it up to date. The resolution below includes all of the original 
> PPMC
> members from Gora. Please let me know whether you would NOT like to remain
> on the PMC, otherwise, I'm assuming you would :-)
>
> Here's the resolution:
>
> X. Establish the Apache Gora Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software related to persistence, storage, and
> retrieval middleware for relational and NoSQL databases
> for distribution at no charge to the public.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Gora Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Gora Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to object persistence, storage and retrieval; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Gora" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache Gora Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache Gora Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache Gora Project:
>
>       * Sertan Alkan <sertan@...>
>       * Andrzej Bialecki <ab@...>
>       * Ioannis Canellos <iocanel@...>
>       * Dogacan Guney <dogacan@...>
>       * Andrew Hart <ahart@...>
>       * Chris Mattmann <mattmann@...>
>       * Lewis John McGibbney <lewismc@...>
>       * Julien Nioche <jnioche@...>
>       * Henry Saputra <hsaputra@...>
>       * Enis Soztutar <enis@...>
>       * David Woollard <woollard@...>
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Gora Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Gora sub-project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Gora sub-project encumbered upon the
> Apache Incubator Project are hereafter discharged.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Enis/Henry/Lewis
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Gora, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
>
> On Nov 20, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Lewis John Mcgibbney wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've been monitoring the ongoing discussion (namely Luciano Resende's
>> recent thread) regarding progression through the incubtor, and can't help
>> but think about how Gora is moving as a project, where we want to move
>> things and how much effort is required to get some activity going again.
>> There is a small but important area of interest from Ferdy and myself on
>> the Nutchgora front, however I'm quite concerned about the interest in the
>> community and the subsequent barrier this is creating to attract more
>> user/dev/commiters!
>>
>> Gora was discussed at general level at ApacheCon, with some reasonable
>> interest from traditional database guys, some Cassandra committers were
>> also interested so it is obviously a project which not only has real
>> potential but also solves a justified problem.
>>
>> As Gora has been in the incubator since 26/10/2010 (along with some 44
>> other projects) we have seen an unprecedented level of projects entering
>> incubation, of which many are still there. So although there are underlying
>> issues with the entire incubation model, I think it is extremely important
>> for us to initiate discussion regarding our roadmap/strategy as we move
>> forward. We have seen 2 releases during the incubation period which is
>> excellent, but I am very interested to understand where we are going and
>> which major issues need to be dealt with before 0.2 can be released or on a
>> more important note where Gora needs to be to even consider graduation.
>>
>> Thanks for any comments which add to conversation here.
>>
>> --
>> *Lewis*
>
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