Wendy KU has not deployed their encounter type variable yet to my knowledge and not all deployed data has been moved to Babel for many of our sites. KU will and must deploy encounter type to be compliant with PCORI and participate in GPC. So I am simply saying that all of our sites will have the data deployed and it should be part of any data management planning. Therefore the "last completed encounter" as a marker for "our last contact with the living patient" will be satisfied within our GPC/PCORI common data model as: "the last encounter of type IP, IS, AV, ED or OA" for the patient.
At UNMC at least, NO patient visit occurs that is not stored into i2b2 as an Encounter. We may want to visit this as a quality variable across GPC in terms of frequency of non-documented visit activity. Jim ________________________________________ From: GPC Informatics [d...@madmode.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 12:15 PM To: m...@wisc.edu; j...@kumc.edu; dconno...@kumc.edu; Hickman, Hubert B; Campbell, James R Cc: tshire...@kumc.edu; tmcma...@kumc.edu; gpc-dev@listserv.kumc.edu Subject: Re: [gpc-informatics] #178: determine whether last.visit is the last fulfilled visit or the last scheduled visit #178: determine whether last.visit is the last fulfilled visit or the last scheduled visit -----------------------+---------------------------- Reporter: mish | Owner: jhe Type: problem | Status: assigned Priority: major | Milestone: data-quality2 Component: data-stds | Resolution: Keywords: | Blocked By: 155 Blocking: | -----------------------+---------------------------- Comment (by jhe): Replying to [comment:7 campbell]: Jim, Thanks for the clarification. There is a variable called last.visit among the demographic variables in Heron. What we wanted to find out is whether last.visit is a fulfilled visit or not. If yes, then we know the patient was last known alive on that day. if no, then we can't use last.visit as last known alive date. It is great to know that encounter type can differentiate encounters completered and others. But this is not enough for answering the original question. When we run a query, we pull encounters related to a specific disease only, so the last encounter of the patient with the hospital (likely related other diseases) may not be in the pulled data. I don't know whether the date of last.visit corresponds to the last encounter (among all encounters with the hospitals). If it is, then we need to find that encounter and its type (completed or not). Dan and Tamara: do you know whether we can do this? If last.visit is not linked to an encounter in the system, then we are back to the begining ot the original question: is last.visit fulfilled or scheduled only. Thanks, Wendy > Wendy > Encounters are rolled out unequally across GPC right now. Given differences in system installations, I suggest you consider the PCORI common data model for encounters which we all must implement (and are implementing or have implemented. Encounter types indicate whether encounters are scheduled or completed: > - ENCOUNTR TYPE (LOINC: 75525-6) > - COMPLETED: AV=AMBULATORY VISIT; ED=EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT; IS= NONINSTITUTIONAL INPATIENT STAY; IP=INPATIENT STAY; OA=OTHER AMBULATORY VISIT > - SCHEDULED OR ADMINISTRATIVE: OT=OTHER; UN=UNKNOWN; NI=NO INFORMATION > Our source data at UNMC has considerable more detail regarding administrative types of encounters and you should tell us if you have needs for tracking those types of events. > The Completed encounter types are actual face-to-face encounters of some type with the patient and are those you presumably what you want for research. The others are administrative or scheduling encounters and should be ignored for patient care issues > > Have I answered your question? > > Jim Campbell -- Ticket URL: <http://informatics.gpcnetwork.org/trac/Project/ticket/178#comment:9> gpc-informatics <http://informatics.gpcnetwork.org/> Greater Plains Network - Informatics The information in this e-mail may be privileged and confidential, intended only for the use of the addressee(s) above. Any unauthorized use or disclosure of this information is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail by mistake, please delete it and immediately contact the sender. _______________________________________________ Gpc-dev mailing list Gpc-dev@listserv.kumc.edu http://listserv.kumc.edu/mailman/listinfo/gpc-dev