Wendy
KU has not deployed their encounter type variable yet to my knowledge and not 
all deployed data has been moved to Babel for many of our sites.  KU will and 
must deploy encounter type to be compliant with PCORI and participate in GPC.  
So I am simply saying that all of our sites will have the data deployed and it 
should be part of any data management planning.  Therefore the "last completed 
encounter" as a marker for "our last contact with the living patient"  will be 
satisfied within our GPC/PCORI common data model as:
"the last encounter of type IP, IS, AV, ED or OA" for the patient.

At UNMC at least, NO patient visit occurs that is not stored into i2b2 as an 
Encounter.
We may want to visit this as a quality variable across GPC in terms of 
frequency of non-documented visit activity.
Jim
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Subject: Re: [gpc-informatics] #178: determine whether last.visit is the last 
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#178: determine whether last.visit is the last fulfilled visit or the last
scheduled visit
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 Reporter:  mish       |       Owner:  jhe
     Type:  problem    |      Status:  assigned
 Priority:  major      |   Milestone:  data-quality2
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Comment (by jhe):

 Replying to [comment:7 campbell]:

 Jim,
      Thanks for the clarification. There is a variable called last.visit
 among the demographic variables in Heron. What we wanted to find out is
 whether last.visit is a fulfilled visit or not. If yes, then we know the
 patient was last known alive on that day. if no, then we can't use
 last.visit as last known alive date.

 It is great to know that encounter type can differentiate encounters
 completered and others. But this is not enough for answering the original
 question. When we run a query, we pull encounters related to a specific
 disease only, so the last encounter of the patient with the hospital
 (likely related other diseases) may not be in the pulled data.

 I don't know whether the date of last.visit corresponds to  the last
 encounter (among all encounters with the hospitals). If it is, then we
 need to find that encounter and its type (completed or not). Dan and
 Tamara: do you know whether we can do this?

 If last.visit is not linked to an encounter in the system, then we are
 back to the begining ot the original question: is last.visit fulfilled or
 scheduled only.

 Thanks,

 Wendy



 > Wendy
 > Encounters are rolled out unequally across GPC right now. Given
 differences in system installations, I suggest you consider the PCORI
 common data model for encounters which we all must implement (and are
 implementing or have implemented.  Encounter types indicate whether
 encounters are scheduled or completed:
 >  - ENCOUNTR TYPE (LOINC: 75525-6)
 >    - COMPLETED: AV=AMBULATORY VISIT; ED=EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT; IS=
 NONINSTITUTIONAL INPATIENT STAY; IP=INPATIENT STAY; OA=OTHER AMBULATORY
 VISIT
 >    - SCHEDULED OR ADMINISTRATIVE: OT=OTHER; UN=UNKNOWN; NI=NO
 INFORMATION
 > Our source data at UNMC has considerable more detail regarding
 administrative types of encounters and you should tell us if you have
 needs for tracking those types of events.
 > The Completed encounter types are actual face-to-face encounters of some
 type with the patient and are those you presumably what you want for
 research.  The others are administrative or scheduling encounters and
 should be ignored for patient care issues
 >
 > Have I answered your question?
 >
 > Jim Campbell

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