Tuesday, January 10, 2006, 4:19:52 PM, you wrote:

dzmn>  Greg Twyford wrote:

>> Maybe I'm thick, or I've missed something, but I can't see for the life of me
dzmn> how specialists will get interested in messaging with GPs on a widespread 
basis
dzmn> unless they can receive referrals electronically as well.

Well its much cheaper, easier and faster to send it electronically.
You can also have backward and forward conversations with GPs. I guess
it is possible with paper, but a bit drawn out. It avoids phone
interruptions and can be done between patients. How often have you
played phone tag?

We are receiving HESA signed GP referrals now via Medical-Objects
(Which was developed by Buderim GE Centre). The in message Signature
algorithm is on our Web site. The signature lives with the data, just
like a paper signature, so if you have the message you have the
signature.

dzmn> Specialists aren't interested in receiving referrals electronically and 
if I
dzmn> were a specialist I would prefer the lower transactional costs of a piece 
of
dzmn> paper than an encrypted email that I had to keep for ?7 years.

I suspect keeping a 2k message, that you want to keep anyway is a lot
cheaper than keeping a piece of paper! Having the referral
electronically makes it accessible from anywhere so its a big plus and
avoids scanning. Our local specialists report significant savings by
using messaging for report delivery.

dzmn> I am currently in the early stages of negotiating an ADSL line for one of 
our
dzmn> ophthalmogists. He rightly points out that the benefit of electronic data
dzmn> transfer will accrue to me. I will therefore undertake to be responsible 
for the
dzmn> installation and first year's costs for his ADSL account. It's all part 
of our
dzmn> "Adopt a Specialist" program.

What about the paper, envelope, stamp and staff time savings? Seems
like Robin Hood is now working for the Sheriff to me!

>> While MA [Medicare Australia] continue to require signing with one of their
dzmn> individual certificates I can't see how replacing HeSA key use in Argus 
makes
dzmn> sense. GPs need their location keys for Medicare Online, and seems to be 
no problem.

Its a bit like giving you staff signed checks. I think for the
purposes an individual key makes sense. If the signature is legally
binding then it should be individual.  For the actual messaging a site
certificate is fine to identify message source.

dzmn> I think the model is pathology transmission. Doctors usually don't need 
the
dzmn> government to tell them who they are and the rest they can sort out for 
themselves.


>> The myriad approaches to secure messaging seem to ignore this issue, but to
dzmn> get most GPs and specialists on-board it seems pretty important to me.

dzmn> I hope Argus is listening.

dzmn> David


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Andrew McIntyre
Buderim Gastroenterology Centre (and Medical-Objects)
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