On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 4:17 AM, Helena Mitasova <hmit...@ncsu.edu> wrote:
>> On May 14, 2016, at 11:34 AM, Markus Neteler <nete...@osgeo.org> wrote:
>> Dear PSC,
>>
>> time has passed since the last elections in 2012. As the chair of the
>> PSC I suggest that we renew part of the current PSC (see:
>> https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/PSC#Members).
>> I suggest the following tentative schedule:
>>
>> - May 2016: preannounce elections (see this email) and
>>  - identify members who do not stand for election
>>  - identify inactive members (here the Geoserver PSC has some useful rules 
>> [1]
>
> I find the Geoserver rules rather drastic - they are really important for 
> governance model where
> PSC makes a lot of decisions about development which is not the case for GRASS

ok, agreed.

> I assume that our inactive members won’t be interested in standing for 
> election and
> that way their membership will end.
> As suggested, we should have 3 year term membership so everybody will have to 
> be
> re-elected at least once in 3 years.
> I like the way how the board of directors is elected - it ensures both the 
> continuity and rotation of members.

I am fine with that. The point is: all for election now or ~ half of the PSC?
From off-list communication I know that 3 seats will become vacant.
We have 10 PSC seats in total, hence 3  becoming vacant, 7 for
potential re-election.

I see three options now:
a) fill the 3 slots by election;  In 3 years from now elect ~ 50% of the PSC.
b) identify more current members to volunteer for potential
re-election or randomly select them.
c) Dissolve the PSC and have election of all slots.


>>  - assign free'd up slots to election
>> - May 2016: officially announce PSC elections

We need to hurry up :)

>> - 16 June 2016, 12:00 UTC: nominations possible by community
>> - June 2016: elections (here it would be great use the technology of
>>   the OSGeo charter member elections)
>
> there will be new technology used this year - Vasile knows more about it.

I'll contact him.

>>  Here we have the problem to not have a charter membership.
>
> we can have a system where anybody can nominate a candidate and the 
> contributors with
> svn access (both core and add-ons) vote - can you find out how many we have ?

Yes:
https://www.openhub.net/p/grass_gis/contributors
(forget about the "inactive" indication there, not true for all names
tagged there)

> This is just my suggestion to keep things simple - we can put this out for 
> dicussion on the
> GRASS dev and users list.

Yes. This list is not much read anyway.

>> - July 2016: PSC communicates the new members.
>>
>>
>> IMPORTANT:
>> We need to solve the following issues:
>> - how to remove members from the PSC? (see [1] for inspiration)
>
> see my comment above - I don’t think the Geoserver model is good for us
> (I don’t like kicking people out of anything), I think members should go 
> through re-election every 3 years
> if we start with this elections, third of the current member slots should 
> open up
> and the current members affected should stand or not stand for re-election.
> We can randomly  pick up the slots to be freed to start the cycle.

So you suggest to elect 50% = 5 slots this time?
That would correspond to b) above.

>> - how to elect new members?
>
> if we have enough developers with svn access (core and add-on) they could 
> represent “charter members”
> because they are considered trusted members of the community.

... that makes sense but is not too inclusive.

> But it would be good to find a way how to include power users who do not have 
> svn access.

We could add the Addon SVN contributors.
Perhaps also check who is editing trac.
How to scan the mailing list I don't know.
Another option is "must be nominated by at least X other users/mailing
list members".

Honestly, I currently don't have the time to run a complicated system.
Any volunteer?

> In the document [2], I think the nomination should go also to GRASS dev list 
> (in addition to PSC and users list).

Yes. But: this requires a list subscription. Or one of us forwards it.

Markus


>>
>> [1] 
>> http://docs.geoserver.org/latest/en/developer/policies/psc.html#stepping-down
>> [2] https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/PSC/Election2016 (draft)
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