On 18/11/16 01:55, Anna Petrášová wrote:
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Markus Neteler <nete...@osgeo.org> wrote:
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Margherita Di Leo <direg...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Markus Neteler <nete...@osgeo.org> wrote:
...
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/PSC/Roles

Now I think that all new and confirmed members may contribute to this
question and edit the trac page directly (and report here)
 :-)


The first email in this thread dates back to 2014 and no action has been
taken,

Right. Howver, we have a new PSC in place now.

from my POV we would need to discuss this thread, as well as other
threads that were posed by members of the community, in a more interactive
way, perhaps via IRC.

Sounds good to me.

Regarding the roles, I am sure other important roles
can be individuated as well (e.g. GSoC coordinator/mentors).

It is a draft wiki page which could be extended.
Regarding the GSoC mentors, I think that this works ok. If we really
need a designated GRASS GIS GSoC coordinator, I don't know.

At the same
time, I'm not sure that these roles must be necessarily found withing the
PSC.

As I wrote in the trac wiki page

"Note: a PSC member with a certain role can also delegate another
community member to share the workload "

Besides the activities that clearly fall currently on the shoulders of
Markus and few others, I don't understand why we need a coordinator at all,
since some activities seem to flow well without a designated coordinator, as
Moritz pointed out. But I'm sure that to propose this, Markus, you must have
your reasons.

Yes: I want a more active PSC. Not sporadically but constantly.

Could we make a quick check of the situation, individuate the
current issues and what are we trying to achieve (or which problems are we
trying to solve) with this proposal? Thanks

Here you go - the current situation (of course my completely biased
private view):

* treasurer: done by Martin Landa and Markus Neteler
* release manager: done by Markus Neteler
* translation manager: done by Markus Neteler
* education manager: vacant
* press and marketing manager: : done by Markus Neteler
* documentation manager: : mainly done by Markus Neteler, with
contributions by Vero, Vaclav and others
* designer: Vincent Bain for flyer, Web site mainly done by Markus
Neteler lacking the migration to a new CMS
* trac bug report manager: mainly done by Markus Neteler with major
support by core developers
* testing manager: vacant? major efforts done by Sören and Vaclav
* GUI design manager: vacant? major efforts done by Anna, Vaclav, Martin

This and that name appears too often :-)


We suggest 'working groups' instead of managers, for some tasks it
fits better and might put the pressure off if people want to join. I
also added additional groups, which would be focused on specific
tasks, such as Python 3.

I also added the task of moving from svn to git.

However, as sorry as I am about this, at this stage, I would not want to take on any of these responsibilities, as I'm afraid I wouldn't do them any justice currently. Obviously, I'll continue to work on the code, and, as always, am available for short term support on any issue. I hope this will change by the end of next year. Or maybe Anna's suggestion of collectivizing responsibilities on 2-3 developers per task could be a way.

I would strongly plead for some of the power-users to take over some of the non-coding responsibilities (i.e. translation, education, marketing, documentation, designer) !

Maybe we could send the list around on grass-dev/grass-user and invite non-PSC members to take over some these jobs ?

Moritz
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