Dear ahmed,
You said: Patronise people struggles for party aspirations.
Yes. You are right. Those who are worried in this are only
rightist forces whatever be their labels.
You may feel 'communism' or 'marxism' or 'leninism' are
cliche. No problem. Because, you are not communist.
But it is basic foundations of a communist party.
When I say cpim is not a communist party, it does not mean
that its cadres are not communist aspirants.
cheers,
appunni
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:17 PM, ahmed rafeek j <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> it is not based on any kind of 'hatred' peeople here defend the attack
> of the cpim's insult and atrocities on people's struggles. party's
> brutal ground level voilence on people is shamefully justified by its
> red intellectuals.
>
> telling them that they are not real communist is the right response?
>
> nobody here seems to be having any kind of 'apartheid' to the
> communists. but it seems to be high time to realize that the cliches
> like new democratic revolutions, incorporation to the axis for a grand
> revolution, objectivve conditions and all have hitherto been used to
> patronize the people struggles for party (excuse me, but all communist
> parties) aspirations.
>
> Ahmed
>
>
>
>
> On 4/23/08, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > simple question
> > what is communism
> > would like to be educated on that
> >
> >
> > On 23/04/2008, JAYARAJAN. C.N. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > dear friend,
> > > You are asking so many questions which both you and
> me
> > can not answer. More over, you are not expecting a reply as those
> questions
> > are reserved with your answers.
> > > Let me repeat. CPI(M) does not represent a
> communist
> > party. Every rightist forces know this well. So they are utilising this
> to
> > attack communist parties.
> > > Chengara struggle may be conducted with or without
> the
> > leadership of a communist party. On the other hand, a communist party
> shall
> > uphold the slogan ' land for tiller' and their new democratic
> revolutionary
> > movements shall incorporate that slogan as its main axis. This should be
> the
> > strategy of a communist party as the objective condtions in India like
> > countries are accordingly.
> > > Therefore, a communist party should support all
> land
> > struggles like 'Chengara' and should lead it if necessary.
> > > cheers,
> > > appunni
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:39 PM, ahmed rafeek j <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > communist parties ?!!!!
> > > >
> > > > please advise why people at struggle in Chengara need a communist
> party.
> > > >
> > > > does anybody need to symbolize cpim as communist party? what does
> make
> > > > a communist party really a communist party? what are the signs of
> > > > 'purity'? is there any single communist party which doesnt say that
> > > > they are the 'original'? why do we need to run after each communist
> > > > party to test whether it is real or no? what kind of great
> revolution
> > > > u r planning to do and in which century?
> > > >
> > > > Ahmed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 4/23/08, JAYARAJAN. C.N. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Friends,
> > > > > It is a usual tactics of rightist forces and rightist
> > medias by
> > > > > symbolising CPI(M) as a real communist party, exposing that party
> and
> > > > > generalising that communist parties are like this.
> > > > > It is unfortunate that even many progressive thinking
> people
> > are
> > > > > also repeating the same blah blahs.
> > > > > cheers,
> > > > > appunni
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:03 AM, ranju radha <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > oho...now it s clear comrade
> > > > > > it s to save the world from US imperialism that those bloody CPM
> > cadres
> > > > > raped and killed Dalits in Nandigram ..
> > > > > > and damn those women cadres of CPM, who asked "what was that
> dalit
> > woman
> > > > > doing in the field at 4am" (where else will she shit? and what
> were
> > comrades
> > > > > doing in the field? reading communist manifesto?!!)
> > > > > > what a great revolutionary act comrades!!!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 4/22/08, ahmed rafeek j <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > feel sorry for him...
> > > > > > > but good that he broke his silence at least in chintha. it
> was a
> > bit
> > > > > > > suspensful for me when i see many responses to him and some
> even
> > > > > > > requested for his response on Chengara and some threatened
> with
> > > > > > > spaaaaaaaam mails.
> > > > > > > but he just repeated what pinarayi n all said proving that all
> of
> > them
> > > > > > > are really 'red'. as k.k.koch rightly said, communism is as
> > dangerous
> > > > > > > as fascism to the indigenous people around the world.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ahmed
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 4/22/08, Dileep Raj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > In an article in Chinta weekly GPramachandran (2008 April
> 18)
> > > > > > > > justifies CPIM's abti democratic standpoints/ actions on
> Tibet,
> > > > > Nandigram,
> > > > > > > > Chengara and Arayamkudi. He alleges that there are
> 'objective'
> > > > > evidences for
> > > > > > > > America's interventions
> > > > > > > > in Kerala.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nandigram and chengara are being manipulated by certain
> forces
> > to
> > > > > thwart
> > > > > > > > wider unity
> > > > > > > > formed aginst USimperialism, globalisation,communalisation
> and
> > > > > > > > fascism.(p.23)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In Nandigram and Kolkotta, certain forces are 'depicting'
> CPIM
> > as
> > > > > enemy and
> > > > > > > > unleashing
> > > > > > > > attacks by siding with Congress, BJP, Thrunamool, Maoists
> and
> > Islamic
> > > > > > > > Fundamentalists (pp24--25)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > He concludes the article by stating that " we should take it
> > seriously
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > anti communists are able to
> > > > > > > > create a group political hysteria around nandigram issue."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Dileep R I thuravoor
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bobby Kunhu
>
> >
>
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