what about the child from nowhere? I leftKerala when I was born... and where do I stand... and right now I do not where I belong
On 19/06/2008, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 6/19/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> child from Pakistan: Pakistan is great! >> child from India: India is great!! >> child from China: China is great!!! >> >> *child from "communist Kerala": China is great (?!)* >> Dear Renju, >> > > when did u leave Kerala? Late 60s or mid 70s. > > Child from Kerala says (period wise) > > 1980- 1989 - east germany, poland and soviet union is great > 1990-2000 - (post tianmen) China & cuba is bountiful > 2000-2006- Venezuela is as beautiful as allapuzha > 2006-08- US without hyde act is the promised land > > We all belive that We r the end of life > >> so We are GREAT.. >> >> great!!!! >> best >> >> >> On 6/19/08, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> sending u a personal mail, >>> I would like to believe I understand ascriptive politics... may be i am >>> wrong >>> but for me green youth seems more democratic than grey youth in terms of >>> the discussion >>> i like warriers challenging my notions, which are of course subjective >>> from where i come from..... and i do not like to believe i am right... in >>> the sense of a unversal truth that defines hegemony >>> for me the personal is always political and have suffered thanks to that >>> and in a masochistic sense, i enjoy that >>> Best >>> >>> On 19/06/2008, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> "CONFESSED" and "ALLEGATIONS" >>>> >>>> just try to reverse it, then u will get the picture, dear ahmed. >>>> and no offence intndd.... >>>> >>>> let the "piece--ful" co-existnce continue in the group >>>> let new members join >>>> let those who r afraid of long mails run away >>>> let MODERATIONS continue as we all believe in law and order >>>> >>>> after all who s above the LAW !! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6/19/08, ahmed rafeek j <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> hi bobby, >>>>> nothing much...ranjuradha's introductory session to a new member to >>>>> gy, bashing the whole group left n right with words like >>>>> anti-modernist, romantic, green environmental..etc. >>>>> though he confessed to afthab that there is no clear cut rules n >>>>> regulations and he was not ready to substantiate his allegations on >>>>> anivar's request, i didnt know until now that all these words were >>>>> filthy!!! >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> ahmed rafeek j >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > excuse me, but I seem to hve missed something - is this a war on >>>>> credibility >>>>> > between green and grey youth, couched in the languages its couched >>>>> in? >>>>> > am i missing the trees for the woods? >>>>> > can someone give me some picture please? >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On 19/06/2008, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>> It will be good if you can point clear examples before this >>>>> branding >>>>> >> >>> effort >>>>> >> >>>>> >> WE ARE ALIVE BECAUSE OF HISTORY >>>>> >> WE ARE DEAD BECAUSE OF HISTORY >>>>> >> SO BLAME IT and like T V Chandran, say "ormakalundayirikkanam"!! >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>> cant understand why Dalit/Muslim politics should be modernist, >>>>> >> >>> anti-romantic and red (non-green) environmental ? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> there s no specifc rules and regulations, as far as i know >>>>> >> but...... this is a biggggg buuuuut hihi >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>it's funny to think that sending >>>>> >> only a particular genre of mails will make you immune to any >>>>> >> criticism. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> it s really funny. but that is how even our green secualrism >>>>> flourishes. >>>>> >> it s soooo funnnyyyyy..... >>>>> >> >>>>> >> sorry for the disurbance (though DD era is almost over) >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On 6/19/08, Afthab Ellath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Ranjith, >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> I cant understand why Dalit/Muslim politics should be modernist, >>>>> >>> anti-romantic and red (non-green) environmental ? >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:36 AM, damodar prasad >>>>> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> On 6/19/08, ahmed rafeek j <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> hi, >>>>> >>>>> anti-modernist = may be most of the discussions in this group are >>>>> >>>>> tinted with postmodern vocabulary. >>>>> >>>>> romantic = wish i cud see a single one in this group. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> hahahah.. I enjoyed.. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> green environmental = not a bad color. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> if anybody make statistics of the mails in this group, >>>>> dalit/muslim >>>>> >>>>> related mails won't sure be less in volume. and those mails were >>>>> not >>>>> >>>>> only from 'branded fanatics' (who?). it's funny to think that >>>>> sending >>>>> >>>>> only a particular genre of mails will make you immune to any >>>>> >>>>> criticism. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> >>>>> ahmed rajeek j >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ranju radha wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > yea >>>>> >>>>> > approval not required; but in order not to be moderated >>>>> espesially if >>>>> >>>>> > u >>>>> >>>>> > r a Dalit or Muslim, be careful NOT TO BE ASSERTIVE, and always >>>>> be >>>>> >>>>> > "submissive" and utter "yes yes " to these anti-modernist >>>>> romantic >>>>> >>>>> > green >>>>> >>>>> > environmental fanatic loooong mails... and if u send long mails >>>>> on >>>>> >>>>> > Dalit/minority issues, u may be branded "fanatically >>>>> dalit/muslim" >>>>> >>>>> > thus goes the green experience >>>>> >>>>> > enjoy!! >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It will be good if you can point clear examples before this >>>>> branding >>>>> >>>>> effort >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Anivar (as list admin) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 6/19/08, Subid K.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > Moderators, please welcome this young friend and writer Asma >>>>> >>>>> > Siddiquie from >>>>> >>>>> > Pakistan, she would like to be part of Green Youth! >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > thanks. >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> >>>>> > From: Asma Siddiquie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> >>>>> > Date: Jun 18, 2008 10:47 AM >>>>> >>>>> > Subject: RE: [GreenYouth] a questionnaire from Pakistan (about >>>>> >>>>> > plagiarism) >>>>> >>>>> > To: "Subid K. S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > I became a member to the group but didnt get the approval. >>>>> >>>>> > Thanks a lot Subid. >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > I cant do it on any software. Tried surveymonkey but it says to >>>>> have >>>>> >>>>> > ten >>>>> >>>>> > questions only. >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Thanks >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Asma Siddiqui >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> > Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:05:43 -0700 >>>>> >>>>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> > Subject: Fwd: [GreenYouth] a questionnaire from Pakistan (about >>>>> >>>>> > plagiarism) >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > SEE. >>>>> >>>>> > (r u in the group?!) >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> >>>>> > From: bobinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> >>>>> > Date: Jun 18, 2008 4:54 AM >>>>> >>>>> > Subject: Re: [GreenYouth] a questionnaire from Pakistan (about >>>>> >>>>> > plagiarism) >>>>> >>>>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > hey, >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > It could have been better if it was done through an online >>>>> survey >>>>> >>>>> > website. I >>>>> >>>>> > am finding it dificult to fill and send it. If you can put the >>>>> survey >>>>> >>>>> > into >>>>> >>>>> > an online site, I can get to you atleast 5 inputs. (mainly from >>>>> >>>>> > people who >>>>> >>>>> > suffered plagiarism.) I am bored of people stealing my photos >>>>> and >>>>> >>>>> > right now >>>>> >>>>> > I have written a blog entry. >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > you can see the blog entry here >>>>> >>>>> > http://www.freebird.in/wp/?p=130 >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Please let me know if its possible to put the questionire in a >>>>> online >>>>> >>>>> > survey >>>>> >>>>> > site. Else i will send an openoffice document. >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Thanks and regards, >>>>> >>>>> > Bobinson >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 7:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > This is a mail from my friend Asma Siddiqui from Pakistan. She >>>>> is >>>>> >>>>> > doing a survey regarding plagiarism and other crimes. It is a >>>>> >>>>> > comparative study of media ethics. >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Below is a questionnaire. Please fill it up. It would require >>>>> ten to >>>>> >>>>> > fifteen minutes of your precious time. I am collecting >>>>> information >>>>> >>>>> > and >>>>> >>>>> > data on this topic to understand the issue and to help victims >>>>> avail >>>>> >>>>> > justice. Your information and views would help curb plagiarism >>>>> in >>>>> >>>>> > Pakistan and in other countries. >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Note: Please highlight the options that you want to mark in red >>>>> text >>>>> >>>>> > colour. Also give all your answers and opinions in red text >>>>> colour. >>>>> >>>>> > After you are done, copy paste it on Microsoft word and kindly >>>>> >>>>> > forward >>>>> >>>>> > me the mail. >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Thanks >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Questionnaire >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Name: >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Institution/organization/profession: >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Email address: >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > 1. Is there any course of media ethics and laws taught at >>>>> >>>>> > universities/media institutions in your country? If yes, please >>>>> >>>>> > mention the name of the institution. >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > a) Yes >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > b) No >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > 2. What are the illegal practices rampant in your >>>>> country's >>>>> >>>>> > media >>>>> >>>>> > organizations? You can check more than one option. >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > a) Sensationalism >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > b) Plagiarism >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > c) Wrong reporting >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > d) False news >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > e) Defamation >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > f) Biased news >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > g) Non-payment to writers >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > h) All of the above >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > 3. Do you know of any law against plagiarism in your >>>>> country? >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > a) Yes (Please state the law) >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > b) No >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > 4. Have you ever been a victim of plagiarism? >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > a) Yes >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > b) No >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > 5. Have you ever witnessed an act of plagiarism? >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > a) Yes >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > b) No >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > 6. How can plagiarism be condemned? (you can check more >>>>> than one >>>>> >>>>> > options) >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > a) By publication of an errata >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > b) Sacking the person responsible of plagiarism >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > c) Issuance of warning letter >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > d) Penalty on the criminal >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > e) If any other, please describe. >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > 7. How can plagiarism be prevented? (you can check more >>>>> than one >>>>> >>>>> > options) >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > a) Strict internal policies regarding plagiarism >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > b) A check on plagiarism by an independent organization >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > c) A strict law enforced against plagiarism >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > d) By imposing a ban on the one who does it >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > e) All of the above >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > f) If any other apart from the above options, please >>>>> state >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > 8. Is there any organization that keeps a check on >>>>> plagiarism >>>>> >>>>> > and >>>>> >>>>> > other crimes in your country? >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > a) Yes >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > b) No >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > 9. Do you think there is a need for an organization/group/ >>>>> >>>>> > association to keep a check on plagiarism in your country? >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > a) Yes >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > b) No >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > 10. What in your opinion should the organization focus on >>>>> other than >>>>> >>>>> > plagiarism? (you can check more than one options) >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > a) Defamation >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > b) Non payment to writers >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > c) False news >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > d) If any other, please mention >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > What issues should the organization/group/association address >>>>> apart >>>>> >>>>> > from media crimes? >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > a) a guide for writers >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > b) a trainer for young aspiring writers >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > c) Work towards promoting writers and their work >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > d) Improving journalism/media standards in Pakistan >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > e) Work towards protecting writers' rights >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > f) All of the above >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > g) If any other apart from the above, please mention >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > 11. Would you like to join a group which is working for the >>>>> >>>>> > implementation of journalistic and media ethics? Give reasons. >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > a) Yes >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > b) No >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > 12. What else, in your view, should be done about the illegal >>>>> >>>>> > practices if present in media? Please state your opinion below. >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > -- >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> THANKS & REGARDS >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > http://www.freewebs.com/subidks/ >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Darkness is equally beautiful. Go beyond languages. Help >>>>> yourself >>>>> >>>>> > serve you >>>>> >>>>> > better. >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Deny food and sex to undeserved. >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Listen Your Self. >>>>> >>>>> > ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> > Discover the new Windows Vista Learn more! >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > -- >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> THANKS & REGARDS >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > http://www.freewebs.com/subidks/ >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Darkness is equally beautiful. Go beyond languages. Help >>>>> yourself >>>>> >>>>> > serve you >>>>> >>>>> > better. >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Deny food and sex to undeserved. >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Listen Your Self. >>>>> >>>>> > > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- Bobby Kunhu --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. 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