Interestng to note the dialectics, the pligrimage industry, which inckudes large tour operators to local taxi drivers articulate the same stuff.
A 'pligrim' coming to Kerala in search of 'solace' as advised by the "jyostya" ( who is pivotal in this industry) is led to sevral temples which are linearaly inter-connected in the new narrative. At the same time 'nativist' myth of each temples integrated to a national religious system 'on the way' ( actually going by the road) is promoted. Everyone 'materially' happy... the tourist pligrim, tour operator, guide, devasom... all are satisfied... On 7/20/08, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Interestingly this co-option that Damodar talks about can be witnessed > everywhere and of course the infighting between cults/sects/sub-castes have > to be glossed over in a Parivar kind of agenda - a result is reactionary > homogenisation of communities that percieve a threat from this agenda - I > see the NDF as such a phenomenon. > One of the points in the de Roover article (though he articulated it > subcersively) in an earlier post was about the notion of a pan "Hindu" > identity being an orientalist construct borrowed as a convenient tool by > the Parivar version of nationalism. > However the localist revivalism as far as I have seen happens only in the > context of a larger agenda of homogenisation. The village that my father > comes from has a Bhagwati who is supposed to be one of the sisters of > Kodungallur Amma - now how the Kodungallur myth evolved and the variant > stories themselves are being subjected to a linear narrative and worse a > perverse form of purification. > > > > On 20/07/2008, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Since idol worship is central to several practices that constitute 'hindu' >> religion and local gods and godesses and cults based on a supermo and >> constructions of myths are so innumerable that imposing of 'pan-indian' >> natonal identity on gods/godesses of local varaints were part of the >> cultural nationalistic agenda promoted by the parivar. The local gods were >> acquired, some through the process of what in corporate terms can be called >> as 'hostile bidding' or acquisiton in the name of big ones in the periods >> when parivar was expandign its base. In my local town and near by vilages >> I've seen this. In TVM, also I recenty saw this. >> >> I *referred to plurality in this sense* . same also is the case with many >> ramayanas available (which is slowly beng erased even by the publishing >> industry) >> >> My second point was that there was also in-fight between gods based on >> perhaps rivalarly between 'gothrums'. But this was erased from the collctive >> memory only to pose a hostile distinction between religions. >> >> But now there is a return to localism as favoured by the religious tourism >> and pligrimage industry. Reviving of local myths adaptable to induce a >> localist flavour for consumption s also being tried. >> >> damodar prasad >> >> >> On 7/20/08, salimtk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> plurality is interesting in a transmodern thought context. islam, >>> ofcourse with one God, accomodate the plurality of multiple ways of being >>> human. multiple Gods were not really found mandatory for plurality in >>> beliefs, lif style and even in prayers. >>> >>> On 7/20/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> Date: Jul 20, 2008 8:42 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: vasundhra raje's temple >>>> To: Afthab Ellath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>>> Going by the hindu traditions (in plural) there are all chances that a >>>> new day begins with an invention of new god or goddess. The cultures of >>>> veneration impliict in the sevral several streams of beliefs and >>>> faiths (urbanized and tribal) available in the sub continent enables the >>>> possibility of *discover*y of gods and godesses every day. Temple, >>>> diety and idol will follow from this and suubsequent to this desecration as >>>> well. >>>> >>>> The various histories of temple desceration as part of rivalarly between >>>> kings and even kith and kind and also intra-*gothrum* warfare is erased >>>> from the collective memory to bring attention for political advantages. >>>> >>>> Its upsetting that RSS version of history that implicates only Muslim >>>> rulers as desecrators is effectively availble in popular hsitory. >>>> >>>> For RSS and for establishing its one nation theory, a regimented >>>> religion based on vedas and smrithis is necessary. >>>> >>>> But the fiath and beliefs is consistenty challengign this codification. >>>> >>>> But Rajes temple is not in anyway conencted with this. It may be a sort >>>> of ad. work where she is facing anti-incumbency and also resistance within >>>> the BJP. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 7/19/08, Afthab Ellath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I cant find some thing unusual in this.. May be something similar to >>>>> what Jayalalitha used to play in Tamil Naadu.. >>>>> >>>>> But can RSS brand of hindu cultural nationalism definitely will have a >>>>> problem in acknowledging this though they might compromise for the broad >>>>> hindu interests ... But there is no contradiction in their stance.. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Afthab Ellath >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 7:45 PM, damodar prasad < >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> For devout Hindus, what more exciting news to know about a temple >>>>>> being built for *Seeta Mayya* as Ramayana reading month is >>>>>> celebarated by TBS to DC to Mathrubhumi... >>>>>> >>>>>> RSS problem perhaps is only with the colonial-raj combination of >>>>>> chaste english Rajasthan CM speaks. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 7/19/08, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Interesting development in Rajasthan. Thought this news has to be >>>>>>> shared. Wonder what the BJP is upto, since it looks like about to face >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> defeat in Rajasthan >>>>>>> However as a note, Malaram Bishnoi is a formidable Bishnoi leader and >>>>>>> his position is the most interesting >>>>>>> (Bishnoi's are an intersting syncretic community based mostly in >>>>>>> Rajasthan) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> From: ajay bishnoi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> Date: 19 Jul 2008 16:24 >>>>>>> Subject: vasundhra raje's temple >>>>>>> To: Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> hello bobby >>>>>>> >>>>>>> read this >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RSS opposes Raje temple >>>>>>> ASIANAGE 14 July, 2008 07:54:30 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *By Narayan Bareth* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jaipur >>>>>>> >>>>>>> July 14: Even though the villagers are protesting against the >>>>>>> building of a temple depicting Rajasthan chief minister Vasundhara Raje >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> goddess "May Kalyani" at Beru village in Jodhpur district, priest Hemant >>>>>>> Bohra has refused to budge. But the RSS is unhappy with efforts to >>>>>>> build the >>>>>>> temple in the name of a human being. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mr Bohra said he had hired a sculptor to shape the four-foot-high >>>>>>> idol of Ms Raje as a goddess riding a lion. As Mr Bohra claimed, the >>>>>>> temple >>>>>>> would be built on his own land. But the villagers say the land is owned >>>>>>> by >>>>>>> their Vishnoi community and has been used as a burial site for >>>>>>> centuries. >>>>>>> The Vishnois bury their dead and there are "samadhis" of their >>>>>>> ancestors at >>>>>>> the site. "We will not allow any temple here. Why has Mr Bohra decided >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> build a temple here," asks Malaram Vishnoi, a community leader. The >>>>>>> police >>>>>>> has asked both parties to maintain status quo. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The ruling BJP has maintained a stoic silence but RSS spokesperson in >>>>>>> Rajasthan Kanhaiya Lal Chaturvedi said, "No one would like to see a >>>>>>> human >>>>>>> being projected as a god or goddess." "It is a time of sycophancy in the >>>>>>> polity of India. You can see Congressmen naming everything after the >>>>>>> late >>>>>>> Rajiv Gandhi, Lalu's life story was included in textbooks, and this is >>>>>>> an >>>>>>> expansion of the same trend," he added >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://howrah. org/india_ news/18812. >>>>>>> html<http://howrah.org/india_news/18812.html> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Bobby Kunhu >>>>>>> http://community.eldis.org/myshkin/Blog/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > > > -- > Bobby Kunhu > http://community.eldis.org/myshkin/Blog/ > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
