( I really don't understand why people exhort to refrain from
engaging in critical debates and be satisfied with chanting certain
manthras.While somebody claim that everything is said and done on certain
topics,
and everybody should content with uncritical repetition of
certain 'critical' traditions... and show intolerence toward all
differences,
and even worse, brand everybody referring to certain names as
reactionaries... I simply feel like ignoring it.)

1.*Really? and modern??
what kind of discussions take place there in GAndhi's (savarna) raj?*
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Ranju,
This is as rediculous as retorting "Really?Modern?" to somebody who say
Hindu fundamentalism is modern not, traditional!!

the point was, panchayat is a state, umpire, arbitrar, whihc works on
hierarchy.
Gandhi does not deny decision making within it . Its not that Gandhi stick
to statelessness.
Its only that his state is small.

The moment one come across "modern" or "discussion' why should some
(positive) values  be ascribed to it?

2. Jenny,
on post Chengara scenario, there ofcourse were serius deliberations in the
session.
( why are you so intolerent of a debate where about thirty people met --
everybody except two or three were nonacademicians-- and had a live
discussion on certain important political issues ? who is Ajay Skaria? Why
do you transfer such anger to this sphere?)

Nizar observed that Chengara struggle is Gandhian in nature due to the
readiness to self injury but the present day state and civil society is more
brutal than the British. It doesn't mind even if the
struggling people die. Thus here government is resorting to  Gandhian
method , waiting patiently for the people to change ther mind !!





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