what do you say about the article Bobby? Its such a smooth story.perfectly detailed,rounded. Only in the end it makes a plea that the Indian state does something to change minds of these mis guided youth and bring them on the path of democracy.... :)
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > thehoot.org carried a piece today on Praveen Swami's article, I thought it > might be useful to post it in this thread > > http://thehoot.org/web/home/story.php?storyid=3364&pg=1&mod=1§ionId=32§ionname= > > Was he there? > > > Posted Wednesday, Oct 08 23:52:28, 2008 > > The Hindu (Oct 4) carries an edit page article by Praveen Swami, titled > 'Mapping the Indian Mujahideen'. It presents every minute detail on Indian > Mujahideen, its 'top operative' Atif Amin and how the whole thing works. > (The first sentence reads, "Eight days before he was shot dead, top Indian > Mujahideen (IM) operative Atif Amin helped to draft the manifesto that the > terror group was to issue…") According to whom? There is no attribution of > any kind. > > > > 2008/10/8 ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> dear all, >> >> i think there is a need to go beyond this. this may not be the first and >> last case. there s a need to form a group or cell to assist, guide and >> provide professional legal aid to all such people who are being harassed in >> the name of caste, gender or religion. and what not. >> professional legal help seems to be the need of the hour. As we dont know >> how to deal with such a situation legally. A Citizen Legal Cell shall be >> thought abt for the future. >> >> any one with legal backgroud can help us in this contxt. >> Bobby can perhaps guide us in seeking such a possiblity. >> >> in solidarity >> >> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:22 PM, venukm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Jenny, for sharing this piece. >>> Even while we make many of our planned schedules upset and erratic, >>> perhaps many of us cannot do without this kind of sharing.. >>> Love, >>> Venu. >>> >>> On 7 Oct, 17:27, "jenny rowena" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > Tehelka, Oct 11, 2008 >>> > >>> > *ALIENATED GENERATION* >>> > >>> > Nobody dare question our commitment to education and the Indian >>> > Constitution >>> > >>> > *by Mushirul Hasan* >>> > >>> > THE EXTENT to which our society is getting polarised along religious >>> > lines is very disturbing. If this is the state of affairs almost seven >>> > decades after independence, what might happen a few decades later? >>> > This is not the time to attribute responsibility to different parties >>> > or communities. This is a moment of self-reflection; of trying to find >>> > out what gives rise to this mindless violence. >>> > >>> > The other very disquieting fact is how the electronic media and >>> > sections of the Hindi print media have taken upon themselves the >>> > responsibility of being the custodian of the nation's interest. The >>> > arrogance and intolerance in their coverage reflects a very ominous >>> > trend in the history of journalism. I have experienced this recently. >>> > The Jamia incident is not a big affair, it could have been easily >>> > sorted out, but it was turned into a campaign against a university. >>> > Our doors are open to non-Muslims; our teachers are drawn from all >>> > communities. Compare our record with that of other so-called secular >>> > universities where Muslims have limited access — Benaras Hindu >>> > University, Allahabad University, Delhi University itself — then what >>> > are we questioning? >>> > >>> > A student at the London School of Economic (LSE) was nabbed very >>> > recently by the police — does it mean that the LSE has become a hotbed >>> > of terrorism? This is senseless. I think we have to fight back. We >>> > have tolerated this nonsense for far too long. We should take on the >>> > media and demonstrate to the people that they are not trustworthy and >>> > are out to basically sensationalise events. Jamia Millia is being seen >>> > as the Muslim institution that it is not; it is a secular institution >>> > funded by the Central Government. The question of legal aid is not >>> > being looked at from the perspective of a teacher's responsibility to >>> > her students. As the head of the institution, I feel I have an >>> > obligation towards my students. And I am not using the taxpayer's >>> > money for it. But the real issue is of principle. If this had happened >>> > to a non-Muslim student, I would have done the same. I am also >>> > upholding the rule of law. Why have we forgotten the principle that >>> > says that an accused is innocent until proven guilty? >>> > >>> > In the ultimate analysis, our society, which has gone through the >>> > Khalistan movement and experienced terrorism in the Northeast, must >>> > look at these incidents in a more cool-headed manner. Because you >>> > can't fight it by reacting in a hysterical manner. Also, our police is >>> > becoming more politicised and communalised. We haven't reoriented them >>> > into becoming the custodians of the secular values enshrined in the >>> > Constitution. Over the past 10 years, there has been a systematic >>> > pattern — Deoband University, an institution with a glorious record, >>> > has been targeted. So has Nadvat-ul-Ulema in Lucknow. Aligarh >>> > University has always been targeted, despite its being a modern >>> > institution with its doors open to all. Is there a pattern in this >>> > madness? We need to reflect on these issues. The alienation is very >>> > deep, and has to stop. But instead of supporting us, which would also >>> > mean supporting an institution committed to secular values, there are >>> > attempts to undermine our secular foundations. >>> > >>> > And now we are dealing with a younger generation of Muslims. I believe >>> > in a liberal, eclectic and pluralist idea of Islam, but I suspect this >>> > vision will not be shared by those who are feeling insecure and >>> > excluded, socially and culturally. Why have the guilty in Gujarat not >>> > been punished? Why? Why? Why is the VHP and Bajrang Dal not banned for >>> > killing innocent Christians and desecrating their churches? >>> > >>> > I regard myself, as do millions of others, as part of the edifice that >>> > is called India. The idea of India is my idea. There is no India >>> > without me, and I will not let that change. We have already taken >>> > certain steps to counter subversive ideas that might fracture our >>> > secular society. I appeal to civil society and the media to let us >>> > live in peace, and get on with our simple and innocent job — pursuit >>> > of knowledge. There is a limit to what one can tolerate. Nobody dare >>> > question our commitment to education, and our loyalty to the Indian >>> > Constitution. >>> > >>> > (Hasan is Vice-Chancellor, Jamia Millia Islamia, New Delhi) >>> > From Tehelka Magazine, Vol 5, Issue 40, Dated Oct 11, 2008 >>> > >>> > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Shahina KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > wrote: >>> > > Dear friends, >>> > > I know this is a belated post. Infact I was taking time to shrugg off >>> > > the >>> > > bewilderment,anguish and scare through which I had been passing for >>> > > the last >>> > > three weeks.The article I wrote in the hoot.org caused me trouble and >>> > > trouble only.I hope some of you might have been aware of that.In the >>> > > following article-*SHIVER… DOWN THE SPINE-* I am trying to summarise >>> > > the >>> > > whole episode. >>> > > Hindustan Thimes on today has carried a trimmed version of this >>> > > article >>> > > under the title 'Your Religion follows You'. >>> > >>> > >>> > > >http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?sectionName=Ho... >>> > >>> > > Shahina >>> > >>> > > *SHIVER… DOWN THE SPINE* >>> > >>> > > * **My tryst with the e-messengers of terror* >>> > >>> > > * * >>> > >>> > > *Shahina K K* >>> > >>> > > Since14th September 2008, writing has become a laborious exercise for >>> > > me. >>> > > It was all of a sudden that words turned heavy, staring at my own >>> > > convictions, political thinking and journalistic vigor. It was on a >>> > > gloomy >>> > > Sunday (the day after the bloody Saturday on which the life of twenty >>> > > odd >>> > > people had been taken away by some body called Indian Mujahideen)that >>> > > things >>> > > turned upside down. It's difficult to describe my terrible sense of >>> > > shock >>> > > when it came to my notice that a part of the email sent by >>> > > perpetrators of >>> > > the Delhi blasts laying claim to the deadly bombs on the day, had >>> > > been >>> > > written by me! It was lifted verbatim from a piece of mine (*Bombs >>> > > defused >>> > > in News rooms*) which appeared in the media watch dog portal,* The >>> > > Hoot*. >>> > > Newspapers had given extensive quotes wondering at the 'journalistic >>> > > character' and 'impeccable English' of those who prepared the mail. >>> > > Even >>> > > when everybody calls it plagiarism I was not spared because my name >>> > > carries >>> > > the identity of a community which is put in the dock for all that >>> > > happens >>> > > dreadfully around us. I wrote about what the media does, how it deals >>> > > with >>> > > the unending episodes of terror strikes juxtaposing with the violence >>> > > by >>> > > Hindu extremists and how flagrantly they fail in the 'balancing' act! >>> > >>> > > A published material is neither mine nor yours. Plagiarism in cyber >>> > > space >>> > > is not a rare phenomenon. There are limited options to check it. I am >>> > > not >>> > > very serious about plagiarism be cause I am skeptical about how far >>> > > we are >>> > > the masters of our own words. I personally believe that what I wrote >>> > > is not >>> > > only mine. It was reproduced by other websites and several bloggers >>> > > .It is >>> > > exciting to watch the cyber movement challenging the dogmatization of >>> > > knowledge. I don't subscribe to the concept of copyright too. But I >>> > > never >>> > > thought of being caught up in a deep sense of anguish, terror and >>> > > shock by >>> > > some one else picking up my words for the manifestation of a heinous >>> > > crime. >>> > > It came to my notice that Sunday evening, while I was perusing *Times >>> > > of >>> > > India* looking for stories missed in the morning. One story on the >>> > > terror >>> > > e-mail had extensively quoted the lifted portion from my article >>> > > analyzing how the extremist forces make a common cause with other >>> > > victims >>> > > of 'Sangh terror' -- Christians and Dalits. '*The idea of a broad >>> > > coalition of all minorities and Dalits in a broad anti-Hindutva >>> > > coalition is >>> > > not new, but its use amid clear signs of unease within Muslims about >>> > > the >>> > > radicalisation of sections within it is immensely interesting."* says >>> > > *The >>> > > Times of India.* >>> > >>> > > The *Times'* story prompted me to go online in search of the full >>> > > text of >>> > > the terror mail and shockingly I found more than a paragraph of my >>> > > article >>> > > had been copied and pasted. It's beyond words how I survived those >>> > > moments >>> > > of scare, insecurity and a deep sense of guilt. We were all 'alone' >>> > > at home, >>> > > in that entire residential area, nobody knows us. We all are living >>> > > in this >>> > > metro not knowing what kind of a life is there at the next door. I >>> > > was in a >>> > > state of numbness incapable of picking up the phone and calling >>> > > somebody. My >>> > > partner Rajeev did the same with a shivering heart. Our friends >>> > > initially >>> > > responded as if it is nothing but rather a minor crime of plagiarism >>> > > that we >>> > > need not worry about further. In fact as they explained later, they >>> > > had been >>> > > trying to shrug off the acerbic realization that what we call >>> > > terrorism is >>> > > some where very near our doorstep. >>> > >>> > > However their arrival at my place was followed by a call from Sevanti >>> > > Ninan, the columnist who edits The Hoot. Even though it was not >>> > > unexpected, >>> > > I had felt a tremor while being informed of the enquiry by the >>> > > Maharashtra >>> > > Anti Terror Squad about me. They contacted Sevanti and she told me >>> > > that it >>> > > was impossible to hold back whatever information they wanted about >>> > > me. I too >>> > > never wanted her to keep me in hiding. Why should I be? The life I >>> > > lived was >>> > > not a private affair at all. I had been constantly there in the >>> > > public space >>> > > with my stories, television appearances and interventions in social >>> > > discourses. It was very much tangible when I was in Kerala, but >>> > > living in a >>> > > metro stricken with terror, it was altogether a different ball game. >>> > > Here >>> > > even my name matters. The heaviness of a Muslim name could make life >>> > > miserable in Delhi. No matter whether you follow religion, religion >>> > > will >>> > > definitely follow you. >>> > >>> > > After a night of tossing and turning, one of our journalist friends >>> > > took it >>> > > on >>> > >>> > ... >>> > >>> > read more » >>> > > > > -- > Bobby Kunhu http://community.eldis.org/myshkin/Blog/ > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
