Reading praveen swamy, I think he is/has been specially corresponding for IB. A classic case of embeddedness!!
How and why should a journalist treat IB as a definite source without any cross-checking or double checking!! On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:05 PM, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > praveen swamy has been constantly engaged in demonising muslims via his > propaganda stories. > he seems to be the man in The Hindu to plant stories against muslim Other. > so pathetic !! > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Gouri Patwardhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> what do you say about the article Bobby? Its such a smooth >> story.perfectly detailed,rounded. Only in the end it makes a plea that >> the Indian state does something to change minds of these mis guided >> youth and bring them on the path of democracy.... >> :) >> >> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > thehoot.org carried a piece today on Praveen Swami's article, I thought >> it >> > might be useful to post it in this thread >> > >> > >> http://thehoot.org/web/home/story.php?storyid=3364&pg=1&mod=1§ionId=32§ionname= >> > >> > Was he there? >> > >> > >> > Posted Wednesday, Oct 08 23:52:28, 2008 >> > >> > The Hindu (Oct 4) carries an edit page article by Praveen Swami, titled >> > 'Mapping the Indian Mujahideen'. It presents every minute detail on >> Indian >> > Mujahideen, its 'top operative' Atif Amin and how the whole thing works. >> > (The first sentence reads, "Eight days before he was shot dead, top >> Indian >> > Mujahideen (IM) operative Atif Amin helped to draft the manifesto that >> the >> > terror group was to issue…") According to whom? There is no attribution >> of >> > any kind. >> > >> > >> > >> > 2008/10/8 ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> >> dear all, >> >> >> >> i think there is a need to go beyond this. this may not be the first >> and >> >> last case. there s a need to form a group or cell to assist, guide and >> >> provide professional legal aid to all such people who are being >> harassed in >> >> the name of caste, gender or religion. and what not. >> >> professional legal help seems to be the need of the hour. As we dont >> know >> >> how to deal with such a situation legally. A Citizen Legal Cell shall >> be >> >> thought abt for the future. >> >> >> >> any one with legal backgroud can help us in this contxt. >> >> Bobby can perhaps guide us in seeking such a possiblity. >> >> >> >> in solidarity >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:22 PM, venukm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Thanks Jenny, for sharing this piece. >> >>> Even while we make many of our planned schedules upset and erratic, >> >>> perhaps many of us cannot do without this kind of sharing.. >> >>> Love, >> >>> Venu. >> >>> >> >>> On 7 Oct, 17:27, "jenny rowena" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> > Tehelka, Oct 11, 2008 >> >>> > >> >>> > *ALIENATED GENERATION* >> >>> > >> >>> > Nobody dare question our commitment to education and the Indian >> >>> > Constitution >> >>> > >> >>> > *by Mushirul Hasan* >> >>> > >> >>> > THE EXTENT to which our society is getting polarised along religious >> >>> > lines is very disturbing. If this is the state of affairs almost >> seven >> >>> > decades after independence, what might happen a few decades later? >> >>> > This is not the time to attribute responsibility to different >> parties >> >>> > or communities. This is a moment of self-reflection; of trying to >> find >> >>> > out what gives rise to this mindless violence. >> >>> > >> >>> > The other very disquieting fact is how the electronic media and >> >>> > sections of the Hindi print media have taken upon themselves the >> >>> > responsibility of being the custodian of the nation's interest. The >> >>> > arrogance and intolerance in their coverage reflects a very ominous >> >>> > trend in the history of journalism. I have experienced this >> recently. >> >>> > The Jamia incident is not a big affair, it could have been easily >> >>> > sorted out, but it was turned into a campaign against a university. >> >>> > Our doors are open to non-Muslims; our teachers are drawn from all >> >>> > communities. Compare our record with that of other so-called secular >> >>> > universities where Muslims have limited access — Benaras Hindu >> >>> > University, Allahabad University, Delhi University itself — then >> what >> >>> > are we questioning? >> >>> > >> >>> > A student at the London School of Economic (LSE) was nabbed very >> >>> > recently by the police — does it mean that the LSE has become a >> hotbed >> >>> > of terrorism? This is senseless. I think we have to fight back. We >> >>> > have tolerated this nonsense for far too long. We should take on the >> >>> > media and demonstrate to the people that they are not trustworthy >> and >> >>> > are out to basically sensationalise events. Jamia Millia is being >> seen >> >>> > as the Muslim institution that it is not; it is a secular >> institution >> >>> > funded by the Central Government. The question of legal aid is not >> >>> > being looked at from the perspective of a teacher's responsibility >> to >> >>> > her students. As the head of the institution, I feel I have an >> >>> > obligation towards my students. And I am not using the taxpayer's >> >>> > money for it. But the real issue is of principle. If this had >> happened >> >>> > to a non-Muslim student, I would have done the same. I am also >> >>> > upholding the rule of law. Why have we forgotten the principle that >> >>> > says that an accused is innocent until proven guilty? >> >>> > >> >>> > In the ultimate analysis, our society, which has gone through the >> >>> > Khalistan movement and experienced terrorism in the Northeast, must >> >>> > look at these incidents in a more cool-headed manner. Because you >> >>> > can't fight it by reacting in a hysterical manner. Also, our police >> is >> >>> > becoming more politicised and communalised. We haven't reoriented >> them >> >>> > into becoming the custodians of the secular values enshrined in the >> >>> > Constitution. Over the past 10 years, there has been a systematic >> >>> > pattern — Deoband University, an institution with a glorious record, >> >>> > has been targeted. So has Nadvat-ul-Ulema in Lucknow. Aligarh >> >>> > University has always been targeted, despite its being a modern >> >>> > institution with its doors open to all. Is there a pattern in this >> >>> > madness? We need to reflect on these issues. The alienation is very >> >>> > deep, and has to stop. But instead of supporting us, which would >> also >> >>> > mean supporting an institution committed to secular values, there >> are >> >>> > attempts to undermine our secular foundations. >> >>> > >> >>> > And now we are dealing with a younger generation of Muslims. I >> believe >> >>> > in a liberal, eclectic and pluralist idea of Islam, but I suspect >> this >> >>> > vision will not be shared by those who are feeling insecure and >> >>> > excluded, socially and culturally. Why have the guilty in Gujarat >> not >> >>> > been punished? Why? Why? Why is the VHP and Bajrang Dal not banned >> for >> >>> > killing innocent Christians and desecrating their churches? >> >>> > >> >>> > I regard myself, as do millions of others, as part of the edifice >> that >> >>> > is called India. The idea of India is my idea. There is no India >> >>> > without me, and I will not let that change. We have already taken >> >>> > certain steps to counter subversive ideas that might fracture our >> >>> > secular society. I appeal to civil society and the media to let us >> >>> > live in peace, and get on with our simple and innocent job — pursuit >> >>> > of knowledge. There is a limit to what one can tolerate. Nobody dare >> >>> > question our commitment to education, and our loyalty to the Indian >> >>> > Constitution. >> >>> > >> >>> > (Hasan is Vice-Chancellor, Jamia Millia Islamia, New Delhi) >> >>> > From Tehelka Magazine, Vol 5, Issue 40, Dated Oct 11, 2008 >> >>> > >> >>> > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Shahina KK < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>> > wrote: >> >>> > > Dear friends, >> >>> > > I know this is a belated post. Infact I was taking time to shrugg >> off >> >>> > > the >> >>> > > bewilderment,anguish and scare through which I had been passing >> for >> >>> > > the last >> >>> > > three weeks.The article I wrote in the hoot.org caused me trouble >> and >> >>> > > trouble only.I hope some of you might have been aware of that.In >> the >> >>> > > following article-*SHIVER… DOWN THE SPINE-* I am trying to >> summarise >> >>> > > the >> >>> > > whole episode. >> >>> > > Hindustan Thimes on today has carried a trimmed version of this >> >>> > > article >> >>> > > under the title 'Your Religion follows You'. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > > > >> http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?sectionName=Ho... >> >>> > >> >>> > > Shahina >> >>> > >> >>> > > *SHIVER… DOWN THE SPINE* >> >>> > >> >>> > > * **My tryst with the e-messengers of terror* >> >>> > >> >>> > > * * >> >>> > >> >>> > > *Shahina K K* >> >>> > >> >>> > > Since14th September 2008, writing has become a laborious exercise >> for >> >>> > > me. >> >>> > > It was all of a sudden that words turned heavy, staring at my own >> >>> > > convictions, political thinking and journalistic vigor. It was on >> a >> >>> > > gloomy >> >>> > > Sunday (the day after the bloody Saturday on which the life of >> twenty >> >>> > > odd >> >>> > > people had been taken away by some body called Indian >> Mujahideen)that >> >>> > > things >> >>> > > turned upside down. It's difficult to describe my terrible sense >> of >> >>> > > shock >> >>> > > when it came to my notice that a part of the email sent by >> >>> > > perpetrators of >> >>> > > the Delhi blasts laying claim to the deadly bombs on the day, had >> >>> > > been >> >>> > > written by me! It was lifted verbatim from a piece of mine (*Bombs >> >>> > > defused >> >>> > > in News rooms*) which appeared in the media watch dog portal,* The >> >>> > > Hoot*. >> >>> > > Newspapers had given extensive quotes wondering at the >> 'journalistic >> >>> > > character' and 'impeccable English' of those who prepared the >> mail. >> >>> > > Even >> >>> > > when everybody calls it plagiarism I was not spared because my >> name >> >>> > > carries >> >>> > > the identity of a community which is put in the dock for all that >> >>> > > happens >> >>> > > dreadfully around us. I wrote about what the media does, how it >> deals >> >>> > > with >> >>> > > the unending episodes of terror strikes juxtaposing with the >> violence >> >>> > > by >> >>> > > Hindu extremists and how flagrantly they fail in the 'balancing' >> act! >> >>> > >> >>> > > A published material is neither mine nor yours. Plagiarism in >> cyber >> >>> > > space >> >>> > > is not a rare phenomenon. There are limited options to check it. I >> am >> >>> > > not >> >>> > > very serious about plagiarism be cause I am skeptical about how >> far >> >>> > > we are >> >>> > > the masters of our own words. I personally believe that what I >> wrote >> >>> > > is not >> >>> > > only mine. It was reproduced by other websites and several >> bloggers >> >>> > > .It is >> >>> > > exciting to watch the cyber movement challenging the dogmatization >> of >> >>> > > knowledge. I don't subscribe to the concept of copyright too. But >> I >> >>> > > never >> >>> > > thought of being caught up in a deep sense of anguish, terror and >> >>> > > shock by >> >>> > > some one else picking up my words for the manifestation of a >> heinous >> >>> > > crime. >> >>> > > It came to my notice that Sunday evening, while I was perusing >> *Times >> >>> > > of >> >>> > > India* looking for stories missed in the morning. One story on the >> >>> > > terror >> >>> > > e-mail had extensively quoted the lifted portion from my article >> >>> > > analyzing how the extremist forces make a common cause with other >> >>> > > victims >> >>> > > of 'Sangh terror' -- Christians and Dalits. '*The idea of a broad >> >>> > > coalition of all minorities and Dalits in a broad anti-Hindutva >> >>> > > coalition is >> >>> > > not new, but its use amid clear signs of unease within Muslims >> about >> >>> > > the >> >>> > > radicalisation of sections within it is immensely interesting."* >> says >> >>> > > *The >> >>> > > Times of India.* >> >>> > >> >>> > > The *Times'* story prompted me to go online in search of the full >> >>> > > text of >> >>> > > the terror mail and shockingly I found more than a paragraph of my >> >>> > > article >> >>> > > had been copied and pasted. It's beyond words how I survived those >> >>> > > moments >> >>> > > of scare, insecurity and a deep sense of guilt. We were all >> 'alone' >> >>> > > at home, >> >>> > > in that entire residential area, nobody knows us. We all are >> living >> >>> > > in this >> >>> > > metro not knowing what kind of a life is there at the next door. I >> >>> > > was in a >> >>> > > state of numbness incapable of picking up the phone and calling >> >>> > > somebody. My >> >>> > > partner Rajeev did the same with a shivering heart. Our friends >> >>> > > initially >> >>> > > responded as if it is nothing but rather a minor crime of >> plagiarism >> >>> > > that we >> >>> > > need not worry about further. In fact as they explained later, >> they >> >>> > > had been >> >>> > > trying to shrug off the acerbic realization that what we call >> >>> > > terrorism is >> >>> > > some where very near our doorstep. >> >>> > >> >>> > > However their arrival at my place was followed by a call from >> Sevanti >> >>> > > Ninan, the columnist who edits The Hoot. Even though it was not >> >>> > > unexpected, >> >>> > > I had felt a tremor while being informed of the enquiry by the >> >>> > > Maharashtra >> >>> > > Anti Terror Squad about me. They contacted Sevanti and she told me >> >>> > > that it >> >>> > > was impossible to hold back whatever information they wanted about >> >>> > > me. I too >> >>> > > never wanted her to keep me in hiding. Why should I be? The life I >> >>> > > lived was >> >>> > > not a private affair at all. I had been constantly there in the >> >>> > > public space >> >>> > > with my stories, television appearances and interventions in >> social >> >>> > > discourses. It was very much tangible when I was in Kerala, but >> >>> > > living in a >> >>> > > metro stricken with terror, it was altogether a different ball >> game. >> >>> > > Here >> >>> > > even my name matters. The heaviness of a Muslim name could make >> life >> >>> > > miserable in Delhi. No matter whether you follow religion, >> religion >> >>> > > will >> >>> > > definitely follow you. >> >>> > >> >>> > > After a night of tossing and turning, one of our journalist >> friends >> >>> > > took it >> >>> > > on >> >>> > >> >>> > ... >> >>> > >> >>> > read more » >> >>> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Bobby Kunhu http://community.eldis.org/myshkin/Blog/ >> > >> > > >> > >> >> >> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
