this went above my head will get back...
On Aug 11, 4:04 pm, ranju radha <ranjura...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i admire Advani in this regard
> he understood the true politics and his vote bank in pink chaddi and
> immediately gave a statemnt in support
> that is why though i disagree with his political ideology, i am with him
> (politicians)
> in the sense, i respect politicians
> they know the pulse of the people and their ideological/political position
>
> intellectuals/academicns/activists should learn from politicians
> best
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> 2009/8/11 ANIL THARAYATH <aniltharay...@gmail.com>
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> > And I think that the identity of the group which initiated this was a
> > urban, english speaking group primarily to which the symbols of
> > resistance were a subjective part of their day to day lives. They have
> > not done anything on behalf of any one but acted on a specific
> > incident. Anyway would like to hear ranjit's views too (I would like
> > to position my self like this for the time being).
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> > On Aug 11, 1:31 pm, venukm <kmvenuan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > Thanks for this;
> > > I visited the blog and posted a comment somewhat like this though a
> > > few sentences are being added now:
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> > > That pink chaddi campaign had actually brought in to sharp focus the
> > > ugliest moral policing by a chauvinist Sri Ram Sene over women, finds
> > > no mention in the post.
> > > The distinction you make between pink and purple makes no sense,
> > > especially when one finds that such sparing treatment was not
> > > available from the Muthalik Moral Brigade to purple women either.
> > > ( Lot of college going girls were harassed too, even leading to the
> > > tragic suicide of one poor village girl from
> > > the hill tracts of Dakshina Kannada district for having been seen
> > > walking home with a Muslim friend as she got down from a bus coming
> > > from Mangalore, where she was studying..many many such incidents
> > > preceded the Mangalore 'pub attack')
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> > > Perhaps the reason why Nisha Susan and others opted for a provocative
> > > but non violent campaign like Pink Chaddi which described itself as
> > > 'as a consortium of pub going,loose women', might be looked in non-
> > > partisan ways as well. The assumption here could be that only "loose"
> > > women could do something daring, and take the risk; "Loose" perhaps
> > > means and includes all who could condemn the cowardliness of those who
> > > speak in tongue- in cheek ways. For example, there are quite a lot of
> > > apologists for Ram Sene. They will never publicly express against
> > > women's claim for equality, but will often take recourse to the alibi
> > > of tradition and culture.
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> > > You people try to bring the distinction (Pink vs Purple) in the
> > > most inopportune way, as far as Pink Chaddi Campaign is concerned..
> > > This is equivalent to saying in other ways that the attacks by Ram
> > > Sene were even justifiable had they been directed only against the
> > > 'Pink' culture (In the popular parlance, this is already named Pub
> > > Culture), and hence, the non-pink women will have/have/ had no issue
> > > with the Ram Sene.
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> > > Thanks,
> > > (Venu).
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> > > On 9 Aug, 17:18, Ranjit Ranjit <ranjit.ran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > wonderful
> > > > love it
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> > > > വെള്ളൈ അഴകേ, എന്‍ ഉള്ളം
> > > > ഉനക്കേ...<http://vellezhuthth.blogspot.com/2009/07/blog-post_07.html>
> > > > <
> >http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_QilWYA4A09o/SlN-j1-0aQI/AAAAAAAAAiU/bCeKpaI...>
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> > > > പിങ്ക് ചഡ്ഡി പ്രചാരണപ്രവര്‍ത്തനത്തിന് നേതൃത്വം നല്‍കിയ നിഷാസൂസന്‍
> > > > പറഞ്ഞതുപോലെ പിങ്ക് സ്വകാര്യവും സ്വതന്ത്രവുമായ ഒരു നിറമാണെന്ന്
> > സമ്മതിച്ചാല്‍
> > > > തന്നെ അത് പ്രതിനിധീകരിക്കുന്നത് മുഴുവന്‍ സ്ത്രീകളെയുമാണോ എന്നൊരു സംശയം
> > > > കുറച്ചു കഴിഞ്ഞിട്ടാണ് തലയില്‍ ‘അറുപതു വാട്ടുള്ള സൂര്യനായി’ കത്തിയത്.
> > > > അപ്പോഴേയ്ക്കും കറുത്ത പെണ്ണിനെ പിങ്ക് ഒരു തരത്തിലും
> > > > സൂചിപ്പിക്കുന്നില്ലെന്നും അവളുടെ നിറം വൈലറ്റാണെന്നും പറഞ്ഞ ആലിസ്
> > > > വാക്കറെപ്പറ്റി നിഖിലാഹെന്റി (പച്ചക്കുതിര) എഴുതിക്കളഞ്ഞു. ‘വുമണിസ’ത്തിന്
> > > > മലയാളത്തില്‍ വ്യാഖ്യാനങ്ങളും ഉണ്ടായി. ‘ഒരേ രക്തം’ എന്നൊക്കെയാണല്ലോ
> > ആലങ്കാരിക
> > > > ഭാഷയില്‍ നമ്മള്‍ പറഞ്ഞു പഠിച്ചത് . എന്നിട്ടും പെണ്‍ച്ചോരയ്ക്കു
> > > > മാത്രമിങ്ങനെയുള്ള രണ്ടു വ്യാഖ്യാനഭേദങ്ങള്‍ ആരെയാണ്
> > > > ഇരുത്തിച്ചിന്തിപ്പിക്കാത്തത്? പിങ്കിന്റെ പ്രസാദാത്മകത്വവും വരേണ്യതയും
> > > > നിഗൂഢതയും, ഇരുണ്ട തൊലിയില്‍ ചതഞ്ഞ രക്തം നിറം പിടിപ്പിക്കുന്ന
> > നീലയ്ക്കില്ല.
> > > > പ്രകടമായും ഞാറപ്പഴത്തിന്റെ വൈലറ്റ് വിഷാദാത്മകത്വത്തിന്റെ നിറമാണ്.
> > ലൈംഗികമായ
> > > > നിഗൂഢത അതിലില്ല. മ്ലാനമുഖമുള്ള നോവാണ് അതിന്റെ പ്രത്യക്ഷാനുഭവം..
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> > > > An interesting post, athttp://
> > vellezhuthth.blogspot.com/2009/07/blog-post_07.html
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> > > > --
> > > > Carmel Christy
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> > > > --
> > > > Ranjit
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> --
> " The so called caste-hindus are bitterly opposed to the depressed class
> using a public tank not because they really believe that the water will be
> thereby spoiled or will evaporate but because they are afraid of losing
> their superiority of caste and of equality being established between the
> former and the latter. We are resorting to this satyagraha not becasue we
> believe that the water of this particular tank has any exceptional
> qualities, but to establish our natural rights as citizens and human
> beings."
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> - Dr B.R. Ambedkar, Mahad Satyagraha Conference, December 25th , 1927
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